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|Description=<p>The convoluted tale of the early beginnings of baseball can be traced to the Gotham Club of New York, whose own genesis can be linked to William Wheaton, who told an interviewer that he wrote down the rules for play in 1837. According to John Thorn, "At some point in the early 1840s the Gotham club was renamed the New York Ball Club, retaining most if not all of its Gotham members. The New Yorks then spun off the Knickerbockers, as Wheaton relates in the 1887 interview offered verbatim below. The Gotham, meanwhile, continued to play ball among themselves from 1845 to 1849, just as the Knickerbocker and Eagle clubs appear to have done. In 1850 those Gotham and New York members who had not attached to the Knickerbockers in Hoboken reconstituted themselves as, yet again, the Washingtons, playing at the Red House Grounds (“a most comfortable ‘asylum for distressed hus- bands,’” offered <em>Spirit of the Times) </em>at Second Avenue and 105th Street in New York.</p> | |Description=<p>The convoluted tale of the early beginnings of baseball can be traced to the Gotham Club of New York, whose own genesis can be linked to William Wheaton, who told an interviewer that he wrote down the rules for play for the club in 1837. According to John Thorn, "At some point in the early 1840s the Gotham club was renamed the New York Ball Club, retaining most if not all of its Gotham members. The New Yorks then spun off the Knickerbockers, as Wheaton relates in the 1887 interview offered verbatim below. The Gotham, meanwhile, continued to play ball among themselves from 1845 to 1849, just as the Knickerbocker and Eagle clubs appear to have done. In 1850 those Gotham and New York members who had not attached to the Knickerbockers in Hoboken reconstituted themselves as, yet again, the Washingtons, playing at the Red House Grounds (“a most comfortable ‘asylum for distressed hus- bands,’” offered <em>Spirit of the Times) </em>at Second Avenue and 105th Street in New York.</p> | ||
<p>In 1851 this Washington Base Ball Club challenged the Knickerbockers to match games that have been preserved in the historical record. In 1852 the club reverted to its old name of Gothams, 'consolidating with' the Washingtons."</p> | <p>In 1851 this Washington Base Ball Club challenged the Knickerbockers to match games that have been preserved in the historical record. In 1852 the club reverted to its old name of Gothams, 'consolidating with' the Washingtons."</p> | ||
<p>This club is the same as the one that played the first game against the Knickerbockers on June 19, 1846, although at the time they were going by the name New York Club.</p> | <p>This club is the same as the one that played the first game against the Knickerbockers on June 19, 1846, although at the time they were going by the name New York Club.</p> | ||
Revision as of 07:08, 14 September 2014
| Nick Name | Gothams, New York Ball Club and Washington Ball Club |
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| Earliest Known Date | 1837 (Foundation Date) |
| Last Known Game | |
| Location | New York, Manhattan, NY, United States |
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| Description | The convoluted tale of the early beginnings of baseball can be traced to the Gotham Club of New York, whose own genesis can be linked to William Wheaton, who told an interviewer that he wrote down the rules for play for the club in 1837. According to John Thorn, "At some point in the early 1840s the Gotham club was renamed the New York Ball Club, retaining most if not all of its Gotham members. The New Yorks then spun off the Knickerbockers, as Wheaton relates in the 1887 interview offered verbatim below. The Gotham, meanwhile, continued to play ball among themselves from 1845 to 1849, just as the Knickerbocker and Eagle clubs appear to have done. In 1850 those Gotham and New York members who had not attached to the Knickerbockers in Hoboken reconstituted themselves as, yet again, the Washingtons, playing at the Red House Grounds (“a most comfortable ‘asylum for distressed hus- bands,’” offered Spirit of the Times) at Second Avenue and 105th Street in New York. In 1851 this Washington Base Ball Club challenged the Knickerbockers to match games that have been preserved in the historical record. In 1852 the club reverted to its old name of Gothams, 'consolidating with' the Washingtons." This club is the same as the one that played the first game against the Knickerbockers on June 19, 1846, although at the time they were going by the name New York Club. |
| Sources | Morris, Peter, et. al., Editors (2013) Base Ball Founders; the Clubs, Players and Cities of the Northeast that Established the Game. Jefferson, NC, McFarland, pg. 51. |
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| Has Source On Hand | No |
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| Entered by | Ralph Carhart |
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| Entry Origin | Sabrpedia |
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Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know
Warning: Users should not rely on a team's won-loss record as a reflection of its "standing" among all base ball clubs. Team schedules were not balanced, and a good record against mostly weak opponents does not signify a leading club.
| Year | Games | Wins | Losses | Ties |
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| 1845 | 4 Played | 3 Won | 0 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1846 | 1 Played | 1 Won | 0 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1851 | 2 Played | 0 Won | 2 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1853 | 3 Played | 0 Won | 3 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1854 | 5 Played | 1 Won | 3 Lost | 1 Tied |
| 1855 | 7 Played | 5 Won | 1 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1856 | 8 Played | 5 Won | 1 Lost | 1 Tied |
| 1857 | 8 Played | 4 Won | 2 Lost | 1 Tied |
| 1858 | 8 Played | 1 Won | 7 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1859 | 7 Played | 3 Won | 4 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1860 | 13 Played | 8 Won | 1 Lost | 4 Tied |
| 1865 | 2 Played | 2 Won | 0 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1866 | 1 Played | 1 Won | 0 Lost | 0 Tied |
Ballgames
Players
Playing Fields
| Field | Years | Edit Association with Club |
|---|---|---|
| Red House | 1849 | |
| Elysian Fields | ||
| Madison Square Park | 1837 |
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