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• 1854.8  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> Pycroft was first published in 1851. See item #[[1851.1]]. Was this material in the first edition?</p>)
• 1863.58  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> can we locate an original source for the Dryden data?</p> <p>I can't find a mention of this in any online newspaper. A Carlton Dryden, Sgt. in the 10th Iowa, is the likeliest candidate for the "Sgt. Dryden" mentioned.</p>)
• 1857.5  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> does "place the men on bases" refer to the fielders? Presumably in the MA game such positioning wasn't needed because there was plugging, and there were no force plays at the bases?</p>)
• 1856.20  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> does this article imply that previously, base ball on the Common was relatively rare?</p>)
• 1855.20  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> these results seems like deliberates exceptions to the 21-run rule; are there others?  Was the 21-run rule proving too short for practice games?</p>)
• 1450.2  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> we need a fuller citation and the key text. Is it possible that this entry confuses D'Urfey's 1694 play about Don Quixote [see Entry #1694.1, below] with the Cervantes masterpiece?</p>)
• 1850s.20  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> were "nips" foul tips?</p>)
• 1820s.12  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> … <p><strong>Note:</strong> Dean Sullivan [7/29/2004] observes that Harold Seymour puts the year of play at Bangor at 1836, citing both pages 198 and 240 of <span>The Discovery of a Grandmother.</span> But Payne was born in 1812, and was not a "boy" in 1836, so this event needs further examination.</p></br><p>Also:This item needs to be reconciled with #[[1823c.4]], below.</p>823c.4]], below.</p>)
• 1841.12  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> Wicket was the main adult sport in Ohio?</p>)
• 1750s.2  + (<p><strong>Note</strong>: Can we determine what region of NC is under discussion here? Text of the biography is unavailable via Google Books as of 11/15/2008. </p>)
• 1830c.7  + (<p><strong>Notes:</strong> can we establish the age of King's father at King's birth?</p> <p>Can we determine where the two Kings might have played?</p>)
• 1831.1  + (<p><strong>Notes:</strong&g … <p><strong>Notes:</strong> </p></br><p>Is it accurate to call this a "town ball" club? When was it formed?  Dean Sullivan dates it to 1837, while J. M. Ward [<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ward's Base Ball</span> Book, page 18] sets 1831 as the date of formation. The constitution was revised in 1837, but the Olympic Club merged with the Camden Town ball Club in 1833, and that event is regarded as the formation date of the Olympics. The story of the Olympics is covered in "Sporting Gossip," by "the Critic" in an unidentified photocopy found at the Giamatti Research Center at the HOF. What appears to be a continuation of this article is also at the HOF. It is "Evolution of Baseball from 1833 Up to the Present Time," by Horace S. Fogel, and appeared in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Philadelphia Daily Evening Telegraph</span>, March 22-23, 1908.</p></br><p><strong>2 </strong>Are we certain that the "firsts" listed in this entry predate the initial appearance of the indicated innovations in American cricket?</p></br><p> </p> entry predate the initial appearance of the indicated innovations in American cricket?</p> <p> </p>)
• 1830c.26  + (<p><strong>Query:</strong> do we know the nature of the ball games of "skip" and "hit or miss?"</p>)
• 1816.4  + (<p><strong>Query:</strong> Does the game appear to uses bases?</p> <p>   <em>No.  Like most forms of longball, there are a home line and a goal line at opposite ends of the field.</em></p>)
• 1857.23  + (<p><strong>Query:</strong> [1] "The old CT game?" Wasn't that wicket? </p>)
• 1867.21  + (<p><strong>[A] </strong> … <p><strong>[A] </strong>Is "Pony Club" a common term for teen clubs?</p></br><div><span><span> - - from John Thorn, 9/22/20:  "The Clipper has citations for "pony team" from 1874 on, perhaps signifying junior team or just whippersnappers. Here, from Sept 8, 1888:"</span></span></div></br><div><span><span> </span></span></div></br><div><span><span><span>BOSTON, Sept 2 . —Coming home with a record of seven victories in eight games is a far different thing from doing so after having won four games out of twenty. Add to this the fact that three straight victories were gained over New York on their own heath and that by what Boston fans look upon as a<span> </span></span><span class="highlightcolor">pony team</span><span>, and it is little wonder that the warmest and most enthusiastic kind of a welcome was bestowed upon the Boston team on Thursday last and that cheer after cheer greeted the appearance of the nine and each man as he stepped to the bat.<span> </span></span></span></span></div></br><p>---</p></br><p><strong>[B] </strong>Wasn't $1500 a tidy sum in 1867?</p></br><p> -- from John Thorn, 9/22/20: "$1500 was a hefty prize: $<strong>27,783.73 </strong>in 2019 dollars (via Consumer Price Index adjustment)."</p>ng>[B] </strong>Wasn't $1500 a tidy sum in 1867?</p> <p> -- from John Thorn, 9/22/20: "$1500 was a hefty prize: $<strong>27,783.73 </strong>in 2019 dollars (via Consumer Price Index adjustment)."</p>)
• Eagle Club of New York v St. Nicholas Club of New York on 9 August 1859  + (<p>==</p>)
• 1844.13  + (<p>Adult play is suggested by choice of late-day meeting.</p>)
• 1797.1  + (<p>Altherr [p. 27] puts this date "at the turn of the century."  Do we know where the 1797 date originated?  Was Webster at Dartmouth then?</p>)
• 1806.2  + (<p>Altherr reports that "Gilbert des … <p>Altherr reports that "Gilbert described some sort of ball play as common on the village commons." (See Block, Ibid., page 241). Can we determine Gilbert's usage in calling such play common? Does the clue that the ball was "worsted" (woolen, or made of wool cloth?) add a helpful clue as to the nature of the game played?</p>ue as to the nature of the game played?</p>)
• 1786.1  + (<p>An article has appeared about Smi … <p>An article has appeared about Smith's journal. See Woodward, Ruth, "Journal at Nassau Hall," PULC 46 (1985), pp. 269-291, and PULC 47 (1986), pp 48-70. <strong>Note:</strong> Does this article materially supplement our appreciation of Smith's brief comment?</p>ly supplement our appreciation of Smith's brief comment?</p>)
• 1800c.12  + (<p>Any clues as to the location of recalled games?</p>)
• 1555c.1  + (<p>Any idea what "rene base" might have meant in those days?  Could it refer to a much older form of the team-tag game later known as prisoner's base? </p>)
• 1800c.11  + (<p>Any idea what 'cat and ball' might have been?  In February 2021 Protoball does not find that phrase.  It is conceivable that the author misheard his father's use of "bat and ball" as "cat and ball." </p>)
• 1872.2  + (<p>Any idea who might have written this little barb at the NYT?  Was it widely quoted in the US?</p>)
• 1871.1  + (<p>Are Carthage and Dallas and Ft. Madison nearby towns?</p>)
• Cat (Kat)  + (<p>Are Twentieth Century forms of Old-Cat know in New York City or other US locations? </p>)
• 1823.6  + (<p>Are any reports available on the rules of the game as played at Round Hill?</p> <p>Beck didn't give the game a particular name?</p>)
• 1867.22  + (<p>Are earlier cases known?</p> <p>Is it known whether these press accommodations were normally granted by a ball club, like the Eureka, or by the owner of the ballfield?</p>)
• 1867.26  + (<p>Are other baserunning games known that were to be played on horseback?</p> <p>Do we know what "Comic Monthlies" were?</p> <p> </p>)
• Scrub  + (<p>Are other forms of Scrub remembered.  Have rules been published authoritatively somewhere?</p>)
• 1868.8  + (<p>Are other post-War throwback games seen in the area?</p>)
• 1000c.1  + (<p>Are the Sagas taken as accurate by scholars of Viking exploits?</p> <p>When did the three siblings live in Vinland?  Were the houses built in what is now US or Canada?</p> <p>When were the Sagas written? </p> <p> </p>)
• 1835c.11  + (<p>Are the players children?</p>)
• 1835c.18  + (<p>Are there any contemporary references to "base ball" in CT before this?</p>)
• Wiffle ball  + (<p>Are there documented forms of wiffle ball that use live baserunners?</p> <p>Has anyone done a directory of known variant games played with a wiffle ball? </p>)
• 1859.41  + (<p>Are there earlier claims for the first Knicks-style game in Canada? Item #1856.18 above was likely a predecessor game, right?</p>)
• 1818.4  + (<p>Are there other sightings of this 1818 cricket account?</p>)
• 1830s.12  + (<p>Are these Welch's own recollections? </p>)
• 1862c.56  + (<p>Are these the only two other known collection of entry fees in the middle 1860s?</p>)
• 1824.6  + (<p>Are we sure we haven't got Holmes … <p>Are we sure we haven't got Holmes <em>pere et fils</em> confused?  OWH Sr (1809-1894), the poet and novelist, attended Andover and Harvard in the 1820s.  OWH Jr (1841-1935) attended Harvard in the 1850s, served in the Civil War and became a justice of the US Supreme Court.--WCH</p></br><p> </p>US Supreme Court.--WCH</p> <p> </p>)
• 1867.28  + (<p>As a set, do these rules resemble … <p>As a set, do these rules resemble contemporary rules for cricket in the 1860s?  Do they align with cricket rules in 1800?</p></br><p>Do we know what the ball was like?  Presumably, tennis balls were hand-wound string in this era, and the ball may have resembled cricket balls and base balls for the era.  </p> balls and base balls for the era.  </p>)
• 1872.4  + (<p>Asking, 3/18/2022:</p> < … <p>Asking, 3/18/2022:</p></br><p>Was it common for pro league clubs to play amateur clubs?  (see BA response, above)</p></br><p>Did the game come off?</p></br><p>Asking, 3/19/2022:</p></br><p>Was the Boston club known as the Red Stockings in 1872?</p></br><p> </p></br><p>Was the proposed game to amount to a pre-season warmup for the Boston pros?</p> <p> </p> <p>Was the proposed game to amount to a pre-season warmup for the Boston pros?</p>)
• 1666.1  + (<p>Bunyan was born in 1628.  Are we sure that this event can be dated 1666, when he was nearly forty years old?</p>)
• 1844.16  + (<p>Can anyone make a guess at the me … <p>Can anyone make a guess at the meaning of "hurra for Connecticut" for a game played in the far north of NYS?  Was the area known for its emigres from CT?</p></br><p>Answer: I believe the reference is to the gains the Whig Party made in the recent CT elections. Just as the local Whigs beat the Loco-Focos (Democrats) at base ball, the CT Whigs beat the Democrats at the polls. [ba]</p> the CT Whigs beat the Democrats at the polls. [ba]</p>)
• 370c.1  + (<p>Can historians identify the "game of ball" that Augustine might have played in the fourth Century? Are the translations to "game of ball," "games," and "sport" still deemed accurate?</p>)
• BC700c.1  + (<p>Can other readers throw any more light on this ancient (and, to Protoball, handsomely <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>obscure</em></span>) text?</p>)
• 1854.22  + (<p>Can readers provide insight as to what game was played on Boston Common in 1854, whether there was a post Civil War league in this area, and otherwise help us interpret this account? </p>)
• 1828.17  + (<p>Can someone help us obtain the text of this newspaper piece?</p>)
• Block:London Dictionary Defines "Baseball" in 1768  + (<p>Can the Shakespeare citation be l … <p>Can the Shakespeare citation be located?</p></br><p>Yes. The cite is to Cymbeline, Act 5, Scene 3. [ba] </p></br><div id="copyPaste"><span id="line-5.3.22" title="5.3.22">"He with two striplings—lads more like to run</span><br/><span id="line-5.3.23" title="5.3.23">The country base than to commit such slaughter,"</span></div></br><div class="post-inner section-inner"> </div>mmit such slaughter,"</span></div> <div class="post-inner section-inner"> </div>)

• 1538.1  + (<p>Can the actual text be retrieved?</p>)

• 1758.1  + (<p>Can the date of the diary entry be traced?</p>)
• 1860.1  + (<p>Can this estimate be reconciled with #1859.40 above? The number of clubs doubled in one year?</p>)
• 1870.4  + (<p>Can we add any indication of why the club disbanded?</p>)
• 1867.5  + (<p>Can we add something about the first game, and the sites of each game?  A bit more about interim game scoring?</p>)
• BC1500c.1  + (<p>Can we add specific sources for these points?</p>)
• 1840s.45  + (<p>Can we assess the accuracy of his … <p>Can we assess the accuracy of his summary?  Is wicket known to be played in   the vicinity or in other colleges?</p></br><p>Cutting p. 113 says the "wicket ground was in the rear of the chapel" thus confirming that wicket was played on the campus. [ba]</p>hat wicket was played on the campus. [ba]</p>)
• 1828.20  + (<p>Can we assume that 'pedal members' pertained to the feet, and that it was thus foot ball, and not the two base-running games that caused the bruises? </p>)
• 1815c.2  + (<p>Can we be certain that this was a base-running game?  Can we rule out that the game was a vigorous 1800's form of handball?</p>)
• 1836.5  + (<p>Can we clarify what game Forbes p … <p>Can we clarify what game Forbes played (rounders? round ball?). </p></br><p> Reader Reply: I would suggest that this is reasonably persuasive evidence that Brits and Yanks were playing effectively the same game, under whatever name. No mention of rules disputes or confusion arises; and one gets the distinct impression, in parallel with ca. 1830s rules descriptions, that both national contingents set to without fuss and that there was little if any difference between English "rounders" and American "X-ball." --WCHicklin (date unspecified).</p>ican "X-ball." --WCHicklin (date unspecified).</p>)
• 1700.1  + (<p>Can we confirm this citation, and that it refers to cricket? Do we know of any earlier public announcements of safe-haven games?</p>)
• 1807.3  + (<p>Can we determine from biographica … <p>Can we determine from biographical information where and when Barry attended college? Is it significant that Barry reprises the phrase "urge the flying ball," seen as a cricket phrase in Pope [see #1730.1] and Gray [#1747.1]? Did Barry live/play in MD?</p>d Gray [#1747.1]? Did Barry live/play in MD?</p>)
• 1802c.1  + (<p>Can we determine the SC location recalled, why Tom dated it as circa 1802, or what form the ballplaying took? </p>)
• 1850s.3  + (<p>Can we determine the year the club formed?  Was it a junior clcub?</p>)
• 1866.11  + (<p>Can we determine what original sources Zingg and Medeiros used?</p>)
• 1660c.3  + (<p>Can we determine whether 17th-cen … <p>Can we determine whether 17th-century balslaen was a batting/baserunning game, or was it in the field-hockey, or handball, or golf, families of games?</p></br><p>Was "New Netherland" confined to the Manhattan area or did it extend northward into the Hudson River valley?</p></br><p>Is "circa 1660" a defensible approximation for this find?</p></br><p>Was balslaen played in Holland?  Could it have influenced English ballplaying, including cricket and English base ball??</p></br><p> </p>nglish ballplaying, including cricket and English base ball??</p> <p> </p>)
• 1858.67  + (<p>Can we determine whether this game was played by the emerging Massachusetts rules or traditional local custom?</p> <p> </p>)
• 1787.1  + (<p>Can we determine why this "shiny" inference was made?</p>)
• Clipping:Traditional Easter Ballplaying . . . Where Fast Day Play was Born?  + (<p>Can we discover more details on the tradition of mature women being central to early Easter ballplaying festivities?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
• Aleut Baseball  + (<p>Can we discover the geographic range of play of this game?  Do local variations exist in Alaska?</p>)
• 1858.10  + (<p>Can we either verify or disprove the accuracy of this recollection?</p>)
• 1630c.3  + (<p>Can we find and inspect the 1935 Boas edition of the diary?</p>)
• 1858.58  + (<p>Can we find any clear basis for t … <p>Can we find any clear basis for the report of 1856 establishment of modern base ball? </p></br><p>[ba] Yes. </p></br><p>Andreas' Chicago, p. 613, says that the Union Base Ball Club organized Aug. 12, 1856.</p></br><p>Andreas' book claim is obviously referencing a notice in the <em>Chicago Daily Democratic Press</em>, Aug. 12, 1856, p. 3, col. 1:</p></br><p>"Union Base Ball Club.--A company of young men will meet this (Tuesday) evening at the Hope Hose Carriage House at 8 o'clock, to organize under the above name and elect officers for the year.</p></br><p>All active young men who need exercise and good sport, are invited to be present."</p>> <p>All active young men who need exercise and good sport, are invited to be present."</p>)
• 1845.16  + (<p>Can we find more hints about the rules that may have governed this match game?</p>)
• 1850s.1  + (<p>Can we find out details on the content of the Wiggins monograph>?</p>)
• 1805.8  + (<p>Can we find out more about the lo … <p>Can we find out more about the long, low wicket reportedly used in earliest forms of English cricket, and when the higher and narrower  wicket evolved there?</p></br><p>Can we find out more about Silliman's life and his age when touring England? </p>iman's life and his age when touring England? </p>)
• 1859.3  + (<p>Can we find out more about this game?</p>)
• 1860.29  + (<p>Can we find that <span>Clipper</span> report? Does the use of two backstops imply the continued application of tick-and-catch rules?</p>)
• 1829.5  + (<p>Can we find the source of this 1829 account?</p>)
• 1828.2  + (<p>Can we find the source, and some text, for this?</p>)
• 1858.31  + (<p>Can we find the <em>Mercury</em> story and/or coverage in Bristol and Waterbury papers? Add page reference.</p>)
• 1255.1  + (<p>Can we further specify the drawing and its creator?</p> <p>Can we learn how baseball historians and others interpret this artwork?</p> <p>Do we know why this drawing is dated to 1255?</p>)
• 1820s.18  + (<p>Can we get better data on Clark's age while at the Academy?</p>)
• 1866.14  + (<p>Can we guess why this innovation came to Cincinnati and not, say, to New York?</p>)
• 1853c.1  + (<p>Can we identify the seminary with the rival club, and determine whether it has any record of early ballplaying?</p>)
• 1805.2  + (<p>Can we imagine what "other machin … <p>Can we imagine what "other machines" were employed to propel balls in the streets of Portland?  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Note:</span>  Additional origins researchers' comments on the meaning or "other machines" is shown in <strong>Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>rong>Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>)
• 1750s.3  + (<p>Can we interpret the baserunning rule allowing "a pace or jump to the base [the runner] was striving to reach?"  Plugging didn't count if the runner was close to the next base," perhaps?</p>)
• Touch-ball  + (<p>Can we learn more about touch-ball's rules and history?</p>)
• 1860.30  + (<p>Can we locate and examine this 1860 article? A: It is apparently not online.</p>)
• 1779.2  + (<p>Can we locate and inspect Shute's reference to bandy wicket?</p>)
• 1850s.4  + (<p>Can we now determine when the these clubs formed, and details on their play and durability?  Do we see ethnic clubs in other cities in the 1850s?</p>)
• 1830c.35  + (<p>Can we obtain a more precise estimate of when this card was made?</p> <p>Can we determine whether the card was distributed in America or in England? </p>)
• 1850s.13  + (<p>Can we obtain original sources?</p>)
• 1661.1  + (<p>Can we really assume that Galileo was familiar with 1600s stoolball and tennis?  Is it possible that this excerpt reflects commentary by Salusbury, rather that strict translation from the Italian source?</p>)
• 1818c.5  + (<p>Can we reconcile the conflicts in the two attributions?</p>)
• 1855.35  + (<p>Can we specify any of the rules in older game played earlier in 1855 by the Excelsiors?</p>)
• 1857.46  + (<p>Can we speculate that the game was played by adults?</p>)
• 1851.7  + (<p>Can we surmise that by using the term "old fashioned game," the newspaper is distinguishing it from the Knickerbocker game?</p>)
• 1844.15  + (<p>Comment is welcome on the interpr … <p>Comment is welcome on the interpretation of the three cryptic rule descriptions for this 12-player game.</p></br><p>[1] "One knock and catch out?"  Could this be taken to define one-out-side-out innings?  Or, that ticks counted as outs if caught behind the batter? Or something else?  <strong>Note: </strong>Richard Hershberger points out that 1OSO rules could not have likely allowed the scoring of 81 runs with no outs.  That would imply that the clubs may have used the All-Out-Side-Out rule.</p></br><p>[2] "Each one out for himself?"  Could batters continue in the batting order until retired?  That too, then, might imply the use of an All-Out-Side-Out inning format</p></br><p>[3] "Each side one inns?"  So the Whigs made those 81 "counts" in a single inning? </p></br><p>Richard Hershberger also surmises that the first two rules are meant to be conjoined: "One knock and catch out, each one out for himself."  That would declare that [a] caught fly balls (and, possibly, caught one-bound hits?) were to be considered outs, and that [b] batters who are put out would lose their place in the batting order that inning; but were there any known variants games for which such catches would <strong>not</strong> be considered outs?   </p>rong> be considered outs?   </p>)
• 1847.17  + (<p>Comments, research tips, speculation welcomed.</p> <p>And . . . what is the game called "gould?"</p> <p> </p>)
• 1847.11  + (<p>Could gentle readers please enlig … <p>Could gentle readers please enlighten Protoball on the nature and fate of "hook-em-snivy," in AL or the South or elsewhere? I asked Mister Google about the word, and he rather less helpfully and rather more cryptically than usual, said this: "My Quaker grandmother, born in Maryland in 1823, used [the word] in my hearing when she was about seventy years old. She said that it was a barbarism in use among common people and that we must forget it.</p>ng common people and that we must forget it.</p>)