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|Date=1860/06/10
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|Date Note=One claim is for an 1858 estab..
|Date Note=One claim is for an 1858 estab..
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|Description=<p>[A] Peverelly reports that this club was organized June 10, 1857, and "is one of the oldest Philadelphia clubs.."</p>
|Description=<p>[A] Peverelly reports that this club was organized June 10, 1857, and "is one of the oldest Philadelphia clubs.."</p>
<p>"From 1857 to 1864 the club was successful in every match except two, which they played with the celebrated Athletics od the same city."</p>
<p>"From 1857 to 1864 the club was successful in every match except two, which they played with the celebrated Athletics od the same city."</p>
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<p>[B] <em>Philadelphia City Item</em>, May 13, 1865.</p>
<p>[B] <em>Philadelphia City Item</em>, May 13, 1865.</p>
<p>[C] Email from Richard Hershberger, November 20, 2013.</p>
<p>[C] Email from Richard Hershberger, November 20, 2013.</p>
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|Comment=<p>Philadelphia&nbsp;<em>Press</em>, Aug. 17, 1866 says the Minerva were originally named the Nil Desperandum</p>
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|Reviewed=Yes
|Reviewed=Yes
|Submitted by=Richard Hershberger
|Submitted by=Richard Hershberger
|Submission Note=Email of 11/20/2013.
|Submission Note=Email of 11/20/2013.
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|Is No Later Than=Yes
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Revision as of 08:26, 1 January 2022

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Nick Name Minerva Base Ball Club
Earliest Known Date Sunday, June 10, 1860 -- One claim is for an 1858 estab..
Location Philadelphia, PA, United States
Description

[A] Peverelly reports that this club was organized June 10, 1857, and "is one of the oldest Philadelphia clubs.."

"From 1857 to 1864 the club was successful in every match except two, which they played with the celebrated Athletics od the same city."

[B] However, an 1865 article states that "the Minervas held the Junior Championship from 1860 to 1863, when they disbanded . . . "

[C] Richard Hershberger observes that Peverelly relied on self-reporting from later club sources, and that "there is no other record of the Minervas that early, that it is implausibly early for Philadelphia, and that multiple period sources from both New York and Philadelphia cite the Penn Tigers of 1858 as the first club in Philadelphia to play the New York game.  This leaves open the possibility that the Minervas originally formed to play town ball, but Philadelphia town ball competition is well documented from 1858-1860, and there is no mention of the Minerva club." 

 

Sources

[A] Freyer and Rucker, Peverelly's National Game (Arcadia, 2005), page 102.

[B] Philadelphia City Item, May 13, 1865.

[C] Email from Richard Hershberger, November 20, 2013.

Comment

Philadelphia Press, Aug. 17, 1866 says the Minerva were originally named the Nil Desperandum

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Submission Note Email of 11/20/2013.
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Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know

Warning: Users should not rely on a team's won-loss record as a reflection of its "standing" among all base ball clubs. Team schedules were not balanced, and a good record against mostly weak opponents does not signify a leading club.

Year Games Wins Losses Ties
1860 1 Played 0 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1862 1 Played 0 Won 1 Lost 0 Tied
1863 5 Played 2 Won 3 Lost 0 Tied
1865 14 Played 5 Won 7 Lost 2 Tied

Ballgames

Page Date City Borough State Team 1 Team 2 Score First in Contributor
Ballgame 1860-11-17 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Leola Club of Philadelphia Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-11-05 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Athletic Club of Philadelphia 11 - 25 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-05-25 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Keystone Club of Philadelphia 33 - 5 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-05-30 Philadelphia PA Athletic Jr. Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 18 - 4 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-06-05 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Athletic Jr. Club of Philadelphia 12 - 9 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-10-02 Philadelphia PA Athletic Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 26 - 13 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-10-12 Philadelphia PA Athletic Jr. Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 13 - 7 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-05-30 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Enterprise Club of Philadelphia 34 - 29 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-06-01 Philadelphia PA Active Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 36 - 23 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-06-06 Philadelphia PA Enterprise Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 29 - 34 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-06-20 Philadelphia PA Hamilton Jr. Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 26 - 26 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-07-04 Philadelphia PA Athletic Jr. Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 31 - 27 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-08-01 Philadelphia PA Athletic Jr. Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 35 - 16 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-09-05 Philadelphia PA Ontario Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 30 - 13 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-09-06 Philadelphia PA Reliance Club of Philadelphia Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia 20 - 14 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-09-26 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Eagle Club of Philadelphia 36 - 21 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-10-03 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Hamilton Club of Philadelphia 21 - 23 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-10-21 Bordentown NJ Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Columbia Club of Bordentown 29 - 30 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-10-23 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Everett Club of Philadelphia 27 - 27 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-10-25 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia First National Club of Philadelphia 33 - 18 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-10-27 Philadelphia PA Minerva Base Ball Club of Philadelphia Liberty Club of Philadelphia 35 - 23 Bob Tholkes

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