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<p>Query: Is there evidence that this club used anything but Massachusetts rules?</p> | <p>Query: Is there evidence that this club used anything but Massachusetts rules?</p> | ||
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>June 1858 -- Scheduling Hurdles Thwart "Frienly Game" with Westboro Club<br /></em></span></p> | |||
<p>"We have received several communications respecting base ball playing, from which it appears that the Eagle club of Westboro, voted June 18<sup>th</sup> to invite the Winthrop Club of Holliston, to go to Westboro and play a friendly game of Base Ball on the 26<sup>th</sup> of June."</p> | |||
<p>"In reply the Winthrops, June 21<sup>st</sup>, stated that it would not be convenient for them to go to Westboro, but invited the Eagles to Holliston to play a game on the same day. This is considered by the Eagles a declinaton of their challenge."<em> Boston Herald</em>, pg. 4, June 23, 1858. Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.</p> | |||
<p> "The President of the Eagle Base Ball Club of Westboro, says in reference to a former statement, that the Eagles did not <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>challenge</em></span> the Winthrop Club of Holliston, but extended to them an invitation to meet them at Westboro as the guests of the Eagle’s and pass a few hours in the pleasant recreation of a game of base ball on Saturday the 26<sup>th</sup>. If the Winthrops had been <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">challenged</span>,</em> they would have had the choice of their ground." <em>Boston Herald</em>, pg. 4, June 25, 1858. Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.</p> | |||
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>June 1858 -- "The Cause Was Rum"</em><br /></span></p> | <p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>June 1858 -- "The Cause Was Rum"</em><br /></span></p> | ||
<p><span style="font-family: 'Cambria','serif'; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">"The game of ball played at Braggville last Saturday afternoon, between the Holliston and Medway boys, was the occasion for a great gathering of all the loafers from the neighboring towns, with a fair sprinkling of very respectable looking men. The fact of the matter was, as we understand, a row and fight. The cause was rum. A large quantity, it is said, was brought on to the ground and disposed of, and even sold at the hotel. We commend that establishment to the attention of the authorities in Holliston." <em>Boston Herald, </em>June 26, 1858,. Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.</span></p> | <p><span style="font-family: 'Cambria','serif'; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">"The game of ball played at Braggville last Saturday afternoon, between the Holliston and Medway boys, was the occasion for a great gathering of all the loafers from the neighboring towns, with a fair sprinkling of very respectable looking men. The fact of the matter was, as we understand, a row and fight. The cause was rum. A large quantity, it is said, was brought on to the ground and disposed of, and even sold at the hotel. We commend that establishment to the attention of the authorities in Holliston." <em>Boston Herald, </em>June 26, 1858,. Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.</span></p> | ||
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|Has Source On Hand=No | |Has Source On Hand=No | ||
|Reviewed=Yes | |Reviewed=Yes | ||
|Submitted by=Bruce Allardice | |Submitted by=Bruce Allardice; Joanne Hulbert | ||
|First in Location=Holliston, MA | |First in Location=Holliston, MA | ||
|Is No Later Than=Yes | |Is No Later Than=Yes | ||
Revision as of 20:24, 29 July 2015
| Nick Name | Winthrop |
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| Earliest Known Date | June 1858 |
| Last Known Game | |
| Location | Holliston, MA, United States |
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| Description | The Boston Herald, June 25, 1858, mentions the Eagle BBC of Westboro and the Winthrop BBC of Holliston. Holliston MA (1860 pop. about 3300) is about 25 miles W of Boston. Westboro MA (1860 pop. about 2,900) is about 30 miles W of Boston and 12 miles NW of Holliston. Query: Is there evidence that this club used anything but Massachusetts rules? |
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June 1858 -- Scheduling Hurdles Thwart "Frienly Game" with Westboro Club "We have received several communications respecting base ball playing, from which it appears that the Eagle club of Westboro, voted June 18th to invite the Winthrop Club of Holliston, to go to Westboro and play a friendly game of Base Ball on the 26th of June." "In reply the Winthrops, June 21st, stated that it would not be convenient for them to go to Westboro, but invited the Eagles to Holliston to play a game on the same day. This is considered by the Eagles a declinaton of their challenge." Boston Herald, pg. 4, June 23, 1858. Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015. "The President of the Eagle Base Ball Club of Westboro, says in reference to a former statement, that the Eagles did not challenge the Winthrop Club of Holliston, but extended to them an invitation to meet them at Westboro as the guests of the Eagle’s and pass a few hours in the pleasant recreation of a game of base ball on Saturday the 26th. If the Winthrops had been challenged, they would have had the choice of their ground." Boston Herald, pg. 4, June 25, 1858. Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015. June 1858 -- "The Cause Was Rum" "The game of ball played at Braggville last Saturday afternoon, between the Holliston and Medway boys, was the occasion for a great gathering of all the loafers from the neighboring towns, with a fair sprinkling of very respectable looking men. The fact of the matter was, as we understand, a row and fight. The cause was rum. A large quantity, it is said, was brought on to the ground and disposed of, and even sold at the hotel. We commend that establishment to the attention of the authorities in Holliston." Boston Herald, June 26, 1858,. Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.
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| Found by | Bruce Allardice; Joanne Hulbert |
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| First in Location | Holliston, MA |
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Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know
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| Year | Games | Wins | Losses | Ties |
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| 1858 | 2 Played | 2 Won | 0 Lost | 0 Tied |
| 1859 | 1 Played | 0 Won | 1 Lost | 0 Tied |
Ballgames
| Page | Date | City | Borough | State | Team 1 | Team 2 | Score | First in | Contributor |
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| Ballgame | 1858-05-31 | Boston | MA | Winthrop Club of Holliston | Olympic Club of Boston | 100 - 27 | Craig Waff | ||
| Ballgame | 1858-07-24 | Holliston | MA | Winthrop Club of Holliston | Massapoag Club of Sharon | 101 - 61 | Joanne Hulbert, Craig Waff, Paul Johnson | ||
| Ballgame | 1859-09-26 | Medway | MA | Union Club of Medway | Winthrop Club of Holliston | 100 - 71 | Craig Waff |
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