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{{Ballgame | {{Ballgame | ||
|Name= | |Name=Allegheny v Pittsburgh in Allegheny on 9 October 1857 | ||
|Coordinates=40.4450813, -80.0087746 | |Coordinates=40.4450813, -80.0087746 | ||
|Entry Origin=Games Tab | |Entry Origin=Games Tab | ||
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|State=PA | |State=PA | ||
|City=Allegheny | |City=Allegheny | ||
|Home Team= | |Field=West Common | ||
|Number of Players=13 | |||
|NY Rules=Doubtful | |||
|Home Team=Allegheny | |||
|Home Score=98 | |Home Score=98 | ||
|Away Team=Pittsburgh | |Away Team=Pittsburgh | ||
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<p>The <em>Daily Pittsburgh Gazette</em>, Oct. 10, 1857 page 3 carries an account of this game, giving a list of the players. Headlined "The Match of Base ball"</p> | <p>The <em>Daily Pittsburgh Gazette</em>, Oct. 10, 1857 page 3 carries an account of this game, giving a list of the players. Headlined "The Match of Base ball"</p> | ||
|Sources=<p>(1) “Out-Door Sports: Base Ball: Alleghany <em>vs.</em> Pittsburgh,” <em>Porter’s Spirit of the Times,</em> vol. 3, no. 7 (17 Oct 1857), p. 108, col. 3</p> | |Sources=<p>(1) “Out-Door Sports: Base Ball: Alleghany <em>vs.</em> Pittsburgh,” <em>Porter’s Spirit of the Times,</em> vol. 3, no. 7 (17 Oct 1857), p. 108, col. 3</p> | ||
<p><em>Daily Pittsburgh Gazette</em>, Oct. 10, 1857</p> | <p><em>Daily Pittsburgh Gazette</em>, Oct. 8, 10, 12, 1857</p> | ||
|Has Source On Hand=No | |||
|Comment=<p>For more details on this non-Knickerbocker-rules game, see http://protoball.org/Alleghany_Club_v_Pittsburg_Club_on_9_October_1857undefined</p> | |Comment=<p>For more details on this non-Knickerbocker-rules game, see http://protoball.org/Alleghany_Club_v_Pittsburg_Club_on_9_October_1857undefined</p> | ||
<p>---</p> | <p>---</p> | ||
<p>In August 2017, in response to a query from the Baseball HOF, we revisited this unusual find. Bruce Allardice later reported (email of 8/12/2017): </p> | <p>In August 2017, in response to a query from the Baseball HOF, we revisited this unusual find. Bruce Allardice later reported (email of 8/12/2017): </p> | ||
<p>"Larry:</p> | <p>"Larry:</p> | ||
<p>There were RR connections east. But the traffic was more in riverboats west.<br /> | <p>There were RR connections east. But the traffic was more in riverboats west.<br />...</p> | ||
<p>Bruce"</p> | <p>Bruce"</p> | ||
<p>Bruce's general point was that in 1857, Pittsburgh was more regularly connected to Ohio Valley locations than those in the eastern USA.</p> | <p>Bruce's general point was that in 1857, Pittsburgh was more regularly connected to Ohio Valley locations than those in the eastern USA.</p> | ||
<p>The players were Allegheny: Bolling, Barrand, Stephens, McClellan, Haslett, Lynch, Cutler, Falkner, Miller, Stubbs, Ludwick, Miller, McChesney</p> | |||
<p>For Pittsburgh: Lesley, Tatland, Parks, Cappy, Anderson, Reece, Elliott, Vierheller, Cochrane, Noble, Vick, Freyvogel and Reece</p> | |||
<p>The Pittsburgh Gazette, Nov. 13, 1857, reported that another game was be played on the West Common Thanksgiving Day, between the Pittsburgh and Allegheny clubs.</p> | |||
<p> </p> | <p> </p> | ||
|Reviewed=Yes | |Reviewed=Yes | ||
|Submitted by=Craig Waff | |Submitted by=Craig Waff | ||
|Players Locality=Local | |||
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Latest revision as of 05:55, 28 March 2024
Date of Game | Friday, October 9, 1857 |
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Location | Allegheny, PA, United States |
Modern Address | |
Field | West Common |
Home Team | Add Club Page Allegheny |
Away Team | Add Club Page Pittsburgh |
Score | 98 - 77 |
Game Number | |
Innings | |
Number of Players | 13 |
Game Officials | |
NY Rules | Doubtful |
Tags | |
Description | Alleghany 98 Pittsburgh 77 (suspended in third inning due to darkness; game was scheduled to be completed on Saturday afternoon) (Porter’s Spirit of the Times: “The match was played by thirty men, equally divided, and consisted of three innings.” The Daily Pittsburgh Gazette, Oct. 10, 1857 page 3 carries an account of this game, giving a list of the players. Headlined "The Match of Base ball" |
Sources | (1) “Out-Door Sports: Base Ball: Alleghany vs. Pittsburgh,” Porter’s Spirit of the Times, vol. 3, no. 7 (17 Oct 1857), p. 108, col. 3 Daily Pittsburgh Gazette, Oct. 8, 10, 12, 1857 |
Source Image | [[Image:|left|thumb]] |
Source Image | [[Image:|left|thumb]] |
Source Image | [[Image:|left|thumb]] |
Source Image | [[Image:|left|thumb]] |
Source Image | [[Image:|left|thumb]] |
Has Source On Hand | No |
Comment | For more details on this non-Knickerbocker-rules game, see http://protoball.org/Alleghany_Club_v_Pittsburg_Club_on_9_October_1857undefined --- In August 2017, in response to a query from the Baseball HOF, we revisited this unusual find. Bruce Allardice later reported (email of 8/12/2017): "Larry: There were RR connections east. But the traffic was more in riverboats west. Bruce" Bruce's general point was that in 1857, Pittsburgh was more regularly connected to Ohio Valley locations than those in the eastern USA. The players were Allegheny: Bolling, Barrand, Stephens, McClellan, Haslett, Lynch, Cutler, Falkner, Miller, Stubbs, Ludwick, Miller, McChesney For Pittsburgh: Lesley, Tatland, Parks, Cappy, Anderson, Reece, Elliott, Vierheller, Cochrane, Noble, Vick, Freyvogel and Reece The Pittsburgh Gazette, Nov. 13, 1857, reported that another game was be played on the West Common Thanksgiving Day, between the Pittsburgh and Allegheny clubs. Edit with form to add a comment |
Query | Edit with form to add a query |
Found by | Craig Waff |
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First in Location | |
Players Locality | Local |
Entry Origin | Games Tab |
Entry Origin Url | http://protoball.org/Games Tab:Pittsburgh#date1857-10-9 |
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