Drive Ball

From Protoball
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Glossary of Games
Glossary book.png

Chart: Predecessor and Derivative Games Pdf ico.gif
Predecessor Games
Derivative Games
Glossary of Games, Full List

Game Families

Baseball · Kickball · Scrub · Fungo · Hat ball · Hook-em-snivy


Untagged Games

Add a Game
Add a Family of Games
Game Drive Ball
Game Family Fungo Fungo
Location New England
Regions US
Eras 1800s, Predecessor
Invented No
Description

[1] Drive ball:  An 1835 book published in New Haven describes drive ball.  David Block's summary:  "In this activity, two boys with bats face each other, taking turns fungoing the ball.  When one boy hits the ball, the other has to retrieve it as quickly as he can, then fungo it back from the spot he picked it up."

From the 1835 text: "'Drive Ball’ is a game for two players only, who are placed each with a bat, at some distance from, and facing each other. The ball is then knocked back and forth, from one to the other, each endeavoring to drive it as far as possible, where it must be picked up and knocked back to the other player, who is at liberty to advance as near as he pleases. If he advance too near, however, his opponent will be likely, with a vigorous stroke, to force him to retreat again. The space of ground passed over will readily show which is the victor."

A 1849 chapbook from Babcock also mentions drive ball as the last mentioned of six common games played with a ball, naming "base-ball, trap ball, cricket, up-ball, catch-ball and drive ball."

--

[2] Drive: A ball game, listed along with the Old Cat games and Baseball, is mentioned in the memoirs of a New Hampshire man born in 1831. The rules of this game are not given. It may not have been a baserunning game.

Drive Ball’ is a game for two players only, who are placed each with a bat, at some distance from, and facing each other. The ball is then knocked back and forth, from one to the other, each endeavoring to drive it as far as possible, where it must be picked up and knocked back to the other player, who is at liberty to advance as near as he pleases. If he advance too near, however, his opponent will be likely, with a vigorous stroke, to force him to retreat again. The space of ground passed over will readily show which is the victor.

Sources

[1] The Boy's Book of Sports; a Description of the Exercises and Pastimes of Youth (New Haven, S. Babcock, 1835), 24 pages. Summarized in David Block, Baseball before We Knew It (University of Nebraska Press, 2005), page 198.   See also Babcock's Juvenile Pastimes; or Girls' and Boys' Book of Sports (New Haven, S. Babcock), 16 pages, per David Block, page 212.

[2] F. B. Sanborn, New Hampshire Biography and Autobiography (Private Printing, Concord NH, 1905), page 13.

Source Image
Camp dday ltrhd.jpg
Comment

[A] One might infer that this game was won when one player hit the ball past some agreed end-line.

[B] Block also spies another possible reference to drive ball in an 1862 engraving at, of all places, Camp Doubleday, a Civil War facility near Washington DC named for General Abner Doubleday of Cooperstown NY.

"In the foreground of the illustration two soldiers face each other with bats, one striking a ball.  Since no other players are involved, the only game that seems to correlate to the image is, in fact, drive ball.  If not for Abner Doubleday's association, we would pay this little heed, but it is a matter of curiosity, if not amusement, to place baseball's legendary noninventor in such close proximity to a game involving a bat and ball."  David Block, Baseball Before We Knew It (UNebraska, 2005), page 198.  See also 1862.104

An old "fogy" recalled playing drive ball and wicket as a youth. See the New London (CT) Daily, Feb 24, 1857. Another in the Waterbury (CT) Democrat, July 11, 1908 recalls that 60 years ago "the three or four clerks from the three or four stores enjoying a game of drive ball on the green."

For a  later description of a "drive ball" game, see "Games we used to play," NY Sun, Oct. 14, 1900. Here, the ball is hit with the hand, not a bat. It appears this game was an 1890s invention, See the Salem (OR) Daily Capital Chronicle, May 11, 1896.

F. A. P. Barnard (1809-89), "How I was Educated" (The Forum , 1886, p. 223): 

From Saratoga, at the age of twelve, I was transferred to a school at Stockbridge, Mass., under the direction of a very capable
instructor, Mr. Jared Curtis, or, as he was always called, Major Curtis. In what service he had won his military rank I never knew.
In this school the scholastic influences were, I think, less potent with me than at Saratoga; but those which proceeded from contact
with “the other fellows” were exceedingly energetic. We certainly found a great deal of time for out-door sports, and this was divided
between base-ball, driveball, one, two, and three hole-cat, hop-scotch, and marbles."

Another reference is in a boys novel, "Caleb in Town" by Jacob Abbott (1838):

p. 122

"Now” said Fritz to Davy, "we will have a game of drive."

So he took a small ball out of his pocket, and laid it down upon the gravel walk, and told Fritz to run along ahead. Then with his hawky he knocked the ball along towards Davy, and Davy tried to stop it with his hawky, as it rolled swiftly towards him. He then knocked it back towards Fritz, and so they knocked it to and fro, each boy trying to knock it beyond the other boy, as far as he could, and yet to prevent its going by himself. Now Davy was the largest and strongest boy, but Fritz was the most adroit and skilful. And so Fritz knocked it by Davy, oftener than Davy could knock it by Fritz. Thus Fritz drove, and, after about an hour, he had driven him across to the other corner of the Common, near to the place where Dwight and Caleb first came in sight of it, on coming into town over the mill-dam.

Here Fritz put the ball in his pocket, and the boys began to walk along in one of the streets.

p. 45

Now, a hawky is a small, round stick, about as long as a man's cane, with a crook in the lower end, so that a boy can hit balls and little stones with it, when lying upon the ground. A good hawky is a great prize to a Boston boy.

Edit with form to add a comment
Query

These ambiguous bits appear to be Protoball's only references to drive ball; can we find out more about the nature of its play?

Is there evidence that drive ball included base-running? [A] a description of the game in Smalley's Magazine (1891, vol. 9, issue 8, p. 10, "Recollections of a Man of Fifty") says no: 

Then there was a lively game called ‘“‘drive ball,” in which, after ‘“‘tossing up” to see who should have the first strike,
two companies separated, leaving a space of six or eight rods between them; then the ball was knocked from one side to the other,
the object of each party being to drive their opponents farther and farther from the starting point. From whatever place the
ball was caught it was knocked back with the bat and at this place the catching party had to rally for their new stand. Each side
strove to catch the ball before its force was spent and to knock it as far as possible beyond the position of the
other side. [ba]

Edit with form to add a query



Comments

<comments voting="Plus" />