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|Comment=<p>John Thorn, 1/31/2023:&nbsp; "<span class="x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582css-901oao x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582css-16my406 x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582r-poiln3 x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582r-bcqeeo x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582r-qvutc0 x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582ContentPasted0">That baseball was regarded as an old game, even in New York City, is attested to by this ad:"</span> Richard Hershberger, 2/1/2023:&nbsp; "Yes, it is striking how many early citations for baseball explicitly refer to it as an old game.&nbsp; This continues well into the New York game era.&nbsp; I take this at face value.&nbsp; Contemporary observers of the rise of baseball to cultural prominence regarded this not as a new game distinct from the old one, but a version of the traditional game.&nbsp; Take this seriously and it changes our understanding of that rise to cultural prominence."</p>
|Comment=<p>John Thorn, 1/31/2023:&nbsp; "<span class="x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582css-901oao x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582css-16my406 x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582r-poiln3 x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582r-bcqeeo x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582r-qvutc0 x_x_ydp24fd4895yiv4187016582ContentPasted0">That baseball was regarded as an old game, even in New York City, is attested to by this ad:"</span> Richard Hershberger, 2/1/2023:&nbsp; "Yes, it is striking how many early citations for baseball explicitly refer to it as an old game.&nbsp; This continues well into the New York game era.&nbsp; I take this at face value.&nbsp; Contemporary observers of the rise of baseball to cultural prominence regarded this not as a new game distinct from the old one, but a version of the traditional game.&nbsp; Take this seriously and it changes our understanding of that rise to cultural prominence."</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>''Note:</em></span>'As of February 2023, the Chronology shows a "Game of Base" played at [[1720c.4]], {played on a beach in Maine}, at [[1828.19]], {played at Harvard University}, and at [[1845.4]] {possibly played by modern rules?}. There is also the 1805 game of 'base' at [[1805.4]], which David Block sees as, by 60-40 odds, being a form of base ball.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>''Note:&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></span>As of February 2023, the Chronology shows a "Game of Base" played at [[1720c.4]], {played on a beach in Maine}, at [[1828.19]], {played at Harvard University}, and at [[1845.4]] {possibly played by modern rules?}. There is also the 1805 game of 'base' at [[1805.4]], which David Block sees as, by 60-40 odds, being a form of base ball.</p>
|Source Image=1845 Game of Base.png
|Source Image=1845 Game of Base.png
|Submitted by=John Thorn
|Submitted by=John Thorn

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"Old Game of Base" Planned -- New York vs. Brooklyn

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Location New York
City/State/Country: New York, NY, USA
Game Game of Base
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"The Old Game of Base Revived -- There will be a game of Base come off on MONDAY, October 6th, between eight New York players and eight of Brooklyn, on the U.S.C. Club ground.  The ame will commence at 11 o'clock, weather permitting; if not, the first fair day. The following are the Brooklyn players:  John Hunt, Edward Hardy, John Hyne, William Sharp, Theodore Foman, John Waley, Stephen Swift, Samuel Myers."   

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'New-York Atlas, October 5, 1845

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John Thorn, 1/31/2023:  "That baseball was regarded as an old game, even in New York City, is attested to by this ad:" Richard Hershberger, 2/1/2023:  "Yes, it is striking how many early citations for baseball explicitly refer to it as an old game.  This continues well into the New York game era.  I take this at face value.  Contemporary observers of the rise of baseball to cultural prominence regarded this not as a new game distinct from the old one, but a version of the traditional game.  Take this seriously and it changes our understanding of that rise to cultural prominence."

 

Note:  As of February 2023, the Chronology shows a "Game of Base" played at 1720c.4, {played on a beach in Maine}, at 1828.19, {played at Harvard University}, and at 1845.4 {possibly played by modern rules?}. There is also the 1805 game of 'base' at 1805.4, which David Block sees as, by 60-40 odds, being a form of base ball.

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