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|Text=<p>"<span>"Instead of the former amusements, which gave so much activity and health to those who partook of them, and gave so much offense to those who pretend to be the engineer of our morals, we have Billiards, Cricket matches, Town-Ball, Bowling-alleys, &c., for those who can spare the time to partake of the amusement."</span></p> | |Text=<p>"<span>"Instead of the former amusements, which gave so much activity and health to those who partook of them, and gave so much offense to those who pretend to be the engineer of our morals, we have Billiards, Cricket matches, Town-Ball, Bowling-alleys, &c., for those who can spare the time to partake of the amusement."</span></p> | ||
|Sources=<p><em>Spirit of the Times</em>, May 3, 1845, p.106 | |Sources=<p><em>Spirit of the Times</em>, May 3, 1845, p.106: a letter from a Philadelphia correspondent. Posted on 19cbb by David Ball, Aug. 27, 2007</p> | ||
|Comment=<p><span> This isn't the first attestation of the term "town ball" but it's very early. | |Comment=<p><span>From John Thorn, email of 2/16/2023: "<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">According to David Ball, '</span></span><span>The item is a letter from a correspondent in that city [Philadelphia], and the context is some sort of political reform movement intended to clean up popular amusements.'"</span><br /></span></p> | ||
<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Protoball Note:</span> As of February 2023, Protoball entries | <p>This isn't the first attestation of the term "town ball" but it's very early.</p> | ||
<p><span>About 50 of these refs are shown on PBall search maps. They show wide distribution across the US, but none are reported in the Greater New York area. (The two New Jersey mentions are not in northernmost NJ.</span></p> | <p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Protoball Note:</span> As of February 2023, Protoball entries show about 100 references to town ball, including about 70 chronology items and 30 other refs in game accounts, club accounts, and news clippings. Some report local finds, but many and others reflect clarifying commentary by PBall data contributors. Very few mentions are found before 1835.</span></p> | ||
<p><span>As far as we know, these references have not been studied rigorously as of early 2023.</span></p> | <p><span>About 50 of these 100 refs are shown on PBall search maps. They show wide distribution across the US, but none are reported in the Greater New York area. (The two New Jersey mentions are not in northernmost NJ).</span></p> | ||
<p><span>As far as we know, these collected town ball references have not been studied rigorously as of early 2023.</span></p> | |||
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<p>Richard Hershberger (email of 2/16/2023) has expressed doubt that the writer is from New York: "Do we know where the writer was from? It would be very surprising if he were from New York."</p> | <p>Richard Hershberger (email of 2/16/2023) has expressed doubt that the writer is from New York: "Do we know where the writer was from? It would be very surprising if he were from New York."</p> | ||
<p>Is it known whether SOT generally favored reports from certain regions in the 1840??</p> | <p>Is it generally known whether SOT generally favored reports from certain regions in the 1840??</p> | ||
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|Submitted by=Bob Tholkes, | |Submitted by=Bob Tholkes, | ||
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| Text | ""Instead of the former amusements, which gave so much activity and health to those who partook of them, and gave so much offense to those who pretend to be the engineer of our morals, we have Billiards, Cricket matches, Town-Ball, Bowling-alleys, &c., for those who can spare the time to partake of the amusement." |
| Sources | Spirit of the Times, May 3, 1845, p.106: a letter from a Philadelphia correspondent. Posted on 19cbb by David Ball, Aug. 27, 2007 |
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| Comment | From John Thorn, email of 2/16/2023: "According to David Ball, 'The item is a letter from a correspondent in that city [Philadelphia], and the context is some sort of political reform movement intended to clean up popular amusements.'" This isn't the first attestation of the term "town ball" but it's very early. Protoball Note: As of February 2023, Protoball entries show about 100 references to town ball, including about 70 chronology items and 30 other refs in game accounts, club accounts, and news clippings. Some report local finds, but many and others reflect clarifying commentary by PBall data contributors. Very few mentions are found before 1835. About 50 of these 100 refs are shown on PBall search maps. They show wide distribution across the US, but none are reported in the Greater New York area. (The two New Jersey mentions are not in northernmost NJ). As far as we know, these collected town ball references have not been studied rigorously as of early 2023.
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Richard Hershberger (email of 2/16/2023) has expressed doubt that the writer is from New York: "Do we know where the writer was from? It would be very surprising if he were from New York." Is it generally known whether SOT generally favored reports from certain regions in the 1840?? Edit with form to add a query |
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| Submitted by | Bob Tholkes, |
| Submission Note | 2/16/2015 |
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1845.27 Early Town-Ball Mention"
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