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<p>Today's digital searches sometimes reveal shinty being played in the United States long ago.</p>
<p>Today's digital searches sometimes reveal shinty being played in the United States long ago.</p>
<p>In August 2022, Protoball's legendary Bruce Allardice reports:&amp;nbsp;</p>
<p>In August 2022, Protoball's legendary Bruce Allardice reports:&amp;nbsp;</p>
<div dir=&quot;ltr&quot;>&quot;I found a reference to games of shinty (sort of a field hockey-type game) played at the Elysian Fields in 1839 (NY Herald, Sept. 10, 1839) as part of the Highland games&quot; (Email of 8/12/2022).</div>
<div dir="&quot;ltr&quot;">"I found a reference to games of shinty (sort of a field hockey-type game) played at the Elysian Fields in 1839 (NY Herald, Sept. 10, 1839) as part of the Highland games" (Email of 8/12/2022).</div>
<div dir=&quot;ltr&quot;>&amp;nbsp;</div>
<div dir="&quot;ltr&quot;">&amp;nbsp; A great illustration of shinty can be found in the Illustrated London News, July 12, 1845, being played on Blackheath by "True Highlanders."</div>
|Comment=<div><span>Shinty (aka Shinney) was played in the US prewar. Cf. the Lancaster (PA) Daily Evening Express, Feb. 2, 1860; Boston Evening Transcript, Oct. 26, 1857; New York Herald, Sept. 10, 1839 (shinty played in the Scottish games, at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken); Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, Nov. 15, 1848 (boys playing shinty in the streets); NY Tribune, Nov. 25, 1859 (Caledonian Society in Hoboken); Newport Mercury, Aug. 19, 1865 (in Providence). </span></div>
|Comment=<div><span>Shinty (aka Shinney) was played in the US prewar. Cf. the Lancaster (PA) Daily Evening Express, Feb. 2, 1860; Boston Evening Transcript, Oct. 26, 1857; New York Herald, Sept. 10, 1839 (shinty played in the Scottish games, at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken); Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, Nov. 15, 1848 (boys playing shinty in the streets); NY Tribune, Nov. 25, 1859 (Caledonian Society in Hoboken); Newport Mercury, Aug. 19, 1865 (in Providence). </span></div>
<div><span>In 1<span>589 the playing of golf, carrick, and&amp;nbsp;</span>shinty, was<span>&amp;nbsp;forbidden in the Blackfriars Yards, Glasgow, 'Sunday or week-day.' (Browning's History of Golf)</span></span><br clear=&quot;none&quot; /><span>As was hurling. A Hurling Club was established in Buffalo in 1860. See the Buffalo Courier, June 11, 1860. Also Brooklyn. See the ad for the new Brooklyn Hurling Club, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 31, 1860, and same Aug. 18, 1858 for a hurling match. Also in Philadelphia by 1860. See Scharf, &quot;Philadelphia&quot; p. 801; Philadelphia Inquirer, July 13, 1860. Chronologies 1772.1 points out that Irish soldiers played Hurling in NYC in 1772, and that Hurling clubs were formed in San Francisco in 1853 (SF Daily Placer Times, May 16, 1853) and NYC in 1857 (NY Herald Dec. 26, 1857: Redmond, Irish sports in America).</span></div>
<div><span>In 1<span>589 the playing of golf, carrick, and&amp;nbsp;</span>shinty, was<span>&amp;nbsp;forbidden in the Blackfriars Yards, Glasgow, 'Sunday or week-day.' (Browning's History of Golf)</span></span><br clear="&quot;none&quot;" /><span>As was hurling. A Hurling Club was established in Buffalo in 1860. See the Buffalo Courier, June 11, 1860. Also Brooklyn. See the ad for the new Brooklyn Hurling Club, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 31, 1860, and same Aug. 18, 1858 for a hurling match. Also in Philadelphia by 1860. See Scharf, "Philadelphia" p. 801; Philadelphia Inquirer, July 13, 1860. Chronologies 1772.1 points out that Irish soldiers played Hurling in NYC in 1772, and that Hurling clubs were formed in San Francisco in 1853 (SF Daily Placer Times, May 16, 1853) and NYC in 1857 (NY Herald Dec. 26, 1857: Redmond, Irish sports in America).</span></div>
<div><span>It appears the two games were similar, Shinty being the Scots version and Hurling the Irish. </span></div>
<div><span>It appears the two games were similar, Shinty being the Scots version and Hurling the Irish. </span></div>
<div><span>For more on Shinty see http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf. For more on the Shinty-Ice Hockey connection, see Martel et al., &quot;On the Origin of Hockey.&quot;[ba]</span></div>
<div><span>For more on Shinty see http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf. For more on the Shinty-Ice Hockey connection, see Martel et al., "On the Origin of Hockey."[ba]</span></div>
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<p class="mwt-notParagraph"><span id="TEMPLATE:1728975247384" class="mwt-nonEditable mwt-wikiMagic mwt-template" title="" data-mwt-type="template" data-mwt-wikitext="{{Game{@@nl@@}|Term=Shinty{@@nl@@}|Game Family=Hook-em-snivy{@@nl@@}|Game Regions=US, Britain{@@nl@@}|Game Eras=1700s, 1800s{@@nl@@}|Invented Game=No{@@nl@@}|Description=&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;It appears that shinty was a bat-and-ball game known in Britain and Ireland and America before 1800 (Strutt, 1903 reprinting, page 92.).&amp;amp;nbsp; Not usually reported as a base-running game, it may have resembled what we now call field hockey.&amp;amp;nbsp; As of 2022, Protoball.org has not collected much information on the history this game.&amp;amp;nbsp; It appears to be similar or identical with the game known as [[hurling]] . Other names we know of are listed at [[bandy]], [[h&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;unyou-hinyou]], and Iceland&amp;#39;s [[&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;knattleikar]].&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Today&amp;#39;s digital searches sometimes reveal shinty being played in the United States long ago.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;In August 2022, Protoball&amp;#39;s legendary Bruce Allardice reports:&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;div dir=&amp;quot;ltr&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I found a reference to games of shinty (sort of a field hockey-type game) played at the Elysian Fields in 1839 (NY Herald, Sept. 10, 1839) as part of the Highland games&amp;quot; (Email of 8/12/2022).&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;div dir=&amp;quot;ltr&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}|Comment=&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;Shinty (aka Shinney) was played in the US prewar. Cf. the Lancaster (PA) Daily Evening Express, Feb. 2, 1860; Boston Evening Transcript, Oct. 26, 1857; New York Herald, Sept. 10, 1839 (shinty played in the Scottish games, at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken); Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, Nov. 15, 1848 (boys playing shinty in the streets); NY Tribune, Nov. 25, 1859 (Caledonian Society in Hoboken); Newport Mercury, Aug. 19, 1865 (in Providence). &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;In 1&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;589 the playing of golf, carrick, and&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;shinty, was&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;forbidden in the Blackfriars Yards, Glasgow, &amp;#39;Sunday or week-day.&amp;#39; (Browning&amp;#39;s History of Golf)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;none&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;As was hurling. A Hurling Club was established in Buffalo in 1860. See the Buffalo Courier, June 11, 1860. Also Brooklyn. See the ad for the new Brooklyn Hurling Club, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 31, 1860, and same Aug. 18, 1858 for a hurling match. Also in Philadelphia by 1860. See Scharf, &amp;quot;Philadelphia&amp;quot; p. 801; Philadelphia Inquirer, July 13, 1860. Chronologies 1772.1 points out that Irish soldiers played Hurling in NYC in 1772, and that Hurling clubs were formed in San Francisco in 1853 (SF Daily Placer Times, May 16, 1853) and NYC in 1857 (NY Herald Dec. 26, 1857: Redmond, Irish sports in America).&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;It appears the two games were similar, Shinty being the Scots version and Hurling the Irish. &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;For more on Shinty see http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf. For more on the Shinty-Ice Hockey connection, see Martel et al., &amp;quot;On the Origin of Hockey.&amp;quot;[ba]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;{@@nl@@}|Has Supplemental Text=No{@@nl@@}}}"></span></p>
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<td><span style="display:none">Hook-em-snivy</span> <a title="Hook-em-snivy (Family of Games)" href="/Hook-em-snivy_(Family_of_Games)"><span title="Games for which the rules of play are not known and, and some that are commonly encountered by researchers but that are not safe-haven games (including shinty, bandy, and stow-ball).">Hook-em-snivy</span></a>
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<td>It appears that shinty was a bat-and-ball game known in Britain and Ireland and America before 1800 (Strutt, 1903 reprinting, page 92.).&nbsp; Not usually reported as a base-running game, it may have resembled what we now call field hockey.&nbsp; As of 2022, Protoball.org has not collected much information on the history this game.&nbsp; It appears to be similar or identical with the game known as <a class="new" title="Hurling (page does not exist)" href="index.php?title=Hurling&amp;action=tinymceedit&amp;redlink=1">hurling</a> . Other names we know of are listed at <a title="Bandy" href="Bandy">bandy</a>, [[h<span>unyou-hinyou]], and Iceland's [[<span>knattleikar]].</span></span>Today's digital searches sometimes reveal shinty being played in the United States long ago. In August 2022, Protoball's legendary Bruce Allardice reports:&nbsp;
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<td>It appears that shinty was a bat-and-ball game known in Britain and Ireland and America before 1800 (Strutt, 1903 reprinting, page 92.).&nbsp; Not usually reported as a base-running game, it may have resembled what we now call field hockey.&nbsp; As of 2022, Protoball.org has not collected much information on the history this game.&nbsp; It appears to be similar or identical with the game known as <a class="new" title="Hurling (page does not exist)" href="/index.php?title=Hurling&amp;action=tinymceedit&amp;redlink=1">hurling</a> . Other names we know of are listed at <a title="Bandy" href="/Bandy">bandy</a>, [[h<span>unyou-hinyou]], and Iceland's [[<span>knattleikar]].</span></span>
Today's digital searches sometimes reveal shinty being played in the United States long ago.
In August 2022, Protoball's legendary Bruce Allardice reports:&nbsp;
<div dir="ltr">"I found a reference to games of shinty (sort of a field hockey-type game) played at the Elysian Fields in 1839 (NY Herald, Sept. 10, 1839) as part of the Highland games" (Email of 8/12/2022).</div>
<div dir="ltr">"I found a reference to games of shinty (sort of a field hockey-type game) played at the Elysian Fields in 1839 (NY Herald, Sept. 10, 1839) as part of the Highland games" (Email of 8/12/2022).</div>
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<div><span>Shinty (aka Shinney) was played in the US prewar. Cf. the Lancaster (PA) Daily Evening Express, Feb. 2, 1860; Boston Evening Transcript, Oct. 26, 1857; New York Herald, Sept. 10, 1839 (shinty played in the Scottish games, at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken); Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, Nov. 15, 1848 (boys playing shinty in the streets); NY Tribune, Nov. 25, 1859 (Caledonian Society in Hoboken); Newport Mercury, Aug. 19, 1865 (in Providence). </span></div>
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<div><span>In 1<span>589 the playing of golf, carrick, and&nbsp;</span>shinty, was<span>&nbsp;forbidden in the Blackfriars Yards, Glasgow, 'Sunday or week-day.' (Browning's History of Golf)</span></span><br clear="none" /><span>As was hurling. A Hurling Club was established in Buffalo in 1860. See the Buffalo Courier, June 11, 1860. Also Brooklyn. See the ad for the new Brooklyn Hurling Club, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 31, 1860, and same Aug. 18, 1858 for a hurling match. Also in Philadelphia by 1860. See Scharf, "Philadelphia" p. 801; Philadelphia Inquirer, July 13, 1860. Chronologies 1772.1 points out that Irish soldiers played Hurling in NYC in 1772, and that Hurling clubs were formed in San Francisco in 1853 (SF Daily Placer Times, May 16, 1853) and NYC in 1857 (NY Herald Dec. 26, 1857: Redmond, Irish sports in America).</span></div>
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<td><div><span>Shinty (aka Shinney) was played in the US prewar. Cf. the Lancaster (PA) Daily Evening Express, Feb. 2, 1860; Boston Evening Transcript, Oct. 26, 1857; New York Herald, Sept. 10, 1839 (shinty played in the Scottish games, at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken); Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, Nov. 15, 1848 (boys playing shinty in the streets); NY Tribune, Nov. 25, 1859 (Caledonian Society in Hoboken); Newport Mercury, Aug. 19, 1865 (in Providence). </span></div>
<div><span>In 1<span>589 the playing of golf, carrick, and&nbsp;</span>shinty, was<span>&nbsp;forbidden in the Blackfriars Yards, Glasgow, 'Sunday or week-day.' (Browning's History of Golf)</span></span><br clear="none"><span>As was hurling. A Hurling Club was established in Buffalo in 1860. See the Buffalo Courier, June 11, 1860. Also Brooklyn. See the ad for the new Brooklyn Hurling Club, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 31, 1860, and same Aug. 18, 1858 for a hurling match. Also in Philadelphia by 1860. See Scharf, "Philadelphia" p. 801; Philadelphia Inquirer, July 13, 1860. Chronologies 1772.1 points out that Irish soldiers played Hurling in NYC in 1772, and that Hurling clubs were formed in San Francisco in 1853 (SF Daily Placer Times, May 16, 1853) and NYC in 1857 (NY Herald Dec. 26, 1857: Redmond, Irish sports in America).</span></div>
<div><span>It appears the two games were similar, Shinty being the Scots version and Hurling the Irish. A great illustration of "shinnie" can be found in the Illustrated London News, July 12, 1845.</span></div>
<div><span>It appears the two games were similar, Shinty being the Scots version and Hurling the Irish. A great illustration of "shinnie" can be found in the Illustrated London News, July 12, 1845.</span></div>
<div><span>For more on Shinty see <a class="external free" href="http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf</a>. For more on the Shinty-Ice Hockey connection, see Martel et al., "On the Origin of Hockey."[ba]</span></div>
<div><span>For more on Shinty see <a class="external free" href="http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf</a>. For more on the Shinty-Ice Hockey connection, see Martel et al., "On the Origin of Hockey."[ba]</span></div>
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Regions US, Britain
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It appears that shinty was a bat-and-ball game known in Britain and Ireland and America before 1800 (Strutt, 1903 reprinting, page 92.).&nbsp; Not usually reported as a base-running game, it may have resembled what we now call field hockey.&nbsp; As of 2022, Protoball.org has not collected much information on the history this game.&nbsp; It appears to be similar or identical with the game known as hurling . Other names we know of are listed at bandy, [[hunyou-hinyou]], and Iceland's [[knattleikar]].

Today's digital searches sometimes reveal shinty being played in the United States long ago.

In August 2022, Protoball's legendary Bruce Allardice reports:&nbsp;

"I found a reference to games of shinty (sort of a field hockey-type game) played at the Elysian Fields in 1839 (NY Herald, Sept. 10, 1839) as part of the Highland games" (Email of 8/12/2022).
&nbsp; A great illustration of shinty can be found in the Illustrated London News, July 12, 1845, being played on Blackheath by "True Highlanders."
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Shinty (aka Shinney) was played in the US prewar. Cf. the Lancaster (PA) Daily Evening Express, Feb. 2, 1860; Boston Evening Transcript, Oct. 26, 1857; New York Herald, Sept. 10, 1839 (shinty played in the Scottish games, at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken); Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, Nov. 15, 1848 (boys playing shinty in the streets); NY Tribune, Nov. 25, 1859 (Caledonian Society in Hoboken); Newport Mercury, Aug. 19, 1865 (in Providence).
In 1589 the playing of golf, carrick, and&nbsp;shinty, was&nbsp;forbidden in the Blackfriars Yards, Glasgow, 'Sunday or week-day.' (Browning's History of Golf)
As was hurling. A Hurling Club was established in Buffalo in 1860. See the Buffalo Courier, June 11, 1860. Also Brooklyn. See the ad for the new Brooklyn Hurling Club, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 31, 1860, and same Aug. 18, 1858 for a hurling match. Also in Philadelphia by 1860. See Scharf, "Philadelphia" p. 801; Philadelphia Inquirer, July 13, 1860. Chronologies 1772.1 points out that Irish soldiers played Hurling in NYC in 1772, and that Hurling clubs were formed in San Francisco in 1853 (SF Daily Placer Times, May 16, 1853) and NYC in 1857 (NY Herald Dec. 26, 1857: Redmond, Irish sports in America).
It appears the two games were similar, Shinty being the Scots version and Hurling the Irish.
For more on Shinty see http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf. For more on the Shinty-Ice Hockey connection, see Martel et al., "On the Origin of Hockey."[ba]

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Description It appears that shinty was a bat-and-ball game known in Britain and Ireland and America before 1800 (Strutt, 1903 reprinting, page 92.).  Not usually reported as a base-running game, it may have resembled what we now call field hockey.  As of 2022, Protoball.org has not collected much information on the history this game.  It appears to be similar or identical with the game known as hurling . Other names we know of are listed at bandy, [[hunyou-hinyou]], and Iceland's [[knattleikar]].Today's digital searches sometimes reveal shinty being played in the United States long ago. In August 2022, Protoball's legendary Bruce Allardice reports: 
"I found a reference to games of shinty (sort of a field hockey-type game) played at the Elysian Fields in 1839 (NY Herald, Sept. 10, 1839) as part of the Highland games" (Email of 8/12/2022).
 
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Shinty (aka Shinney) was played in the US prewar. Cf. the Lancaster (PA) Daily Evening Express, Feb. 2, 1860; Boston Evening Transcript, Oct. 26, 1857; New York Herald, Sept. 10, 1839 (shinty played in the Scottish games, at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken); Cincinnati Commercial Tribune, Nov. 15, 1848 (boys playing shinty in the streets); NY Tribune, Nov. 25, 1859 (Caledonian Society in Hoboken); Newport Mercury, Aug. 19, 1865 (in Providence).
In 1589 the playing of golf, carrick, and shinty, was forbidden in the Blackfriars Yards, Glasgow, 'Sunday or week-day.' (Browning's History of Golf)
As was hurling. A Hurling Club was established in Buffalo in 1860. See the Buffalo Courier, June 11, 1860. Also Brooklyn. See the ad for the new Brooklyn Hurling Club, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 31, 1860, and same Aug. 18, 1858 for a hurling match. Also in Philadelphia by 1860. See Scharf, "Philadelphia" p. 801; Philadelphia Inquirer, July 13, 1860. Chronologies 1772.1 points out that Irish soldiers played Hurling in NYC in 1772, and that Hurling clubs were formed in San Francisco in 1853 (SF Daily Placer Times, May 16, 1853) and NYC in 1857 (NY Herald Dec. 26, 1857: Redmond, Irish sports in America).
It appears the two games were similar, Shinty being the Scots version and Hurling the Irish. A great illustration of "shinnie" can be found in the Illustrated London News, July 12, 1845.
For more on Shinty see http://www.uscamanachd.org/documents/MacLennan_Shintysplace.pdf. For more on the Shinty-Ice Hockey connection, see Martel et al., "On the Origin of Hockey."[ba]
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