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{{Club
|Name=Mississippi Valley BBC Club of Vicksburg
|Coordinates=32.3526456, -90.877882
|Club Name=Mississippi Valley BBC
|Entry Origin=Sabrpedia
|Date=11/1/1864
|Name=Mississippi Valley BBC of Vicksburg
|Club Name=Mississippi Valley
|Type of Date=Month
|Type of Date=Month
|Is No Later Than=Yes
|Date=1864/10/01
|Date Note=Thanksgiving Day
|Date Note=Thanksgiving Day
|First Newspaper Mention=11/1/1864
|Date of Dissolution Type=Day
|First Newspaper Mention Date Type=Month
|Country=United States
|State=MS
|City=Vicksburg
|City=Vicksburg
|State=MS
|Description=<p>The "Spirit of the Times," Dec. 17, 1864, reports on a Thanksgiving Day game in Vicksburg between two nines of the Mississippi Valley BBC. Wentz's nine lost to Tawne's nine, 18 to 6. The article gives a complete box score with the players' names. Note--Julian A. Wentz (1842-1914) was a civilian railroad man born in NY, who came to Vicksburg during the civil war to help run the military railroads there. It is presume that the other ballplayers were civilian government employees. The Vicksburg Daily Times, November 13, 1866, reports: &ldquo;A game of Base Ball came off yesterday at the Arsenal grounds&hellip;. Messrs. Wentz and Borden were captains of the rival sides.&rdquo; The New Orleans Times, December 27, 1866 says the Mississippi Valley Base Ball Club of Vicksburg has come to New Orleans to play. Note--H. and W. Borden played in the 1864 game cites above.</p>
|Country=United States
<p>The <em>Vicksburg Herald</em>, Oct. 15, Oct. 21, 1864 notes practice games of this club. Same Dec. 10, 1864 reports on a meeting of this club.</p>
|Coordinates=32.3526456, -90.877882
<p><span>The Daily Herald, November 26, 1864, stated the following:</span><br /><br /><em>The prize nines were dressed in the uniform of the club, which consists of black pants and white flannel over shirts trimmed with blue. As they appeared upon the ground, they presented quite as fine and lively a body of young men as we have seen assembled together for such a purpose since the days we were want to gather with ball and bat on the 'Village Green.'<br />The Captains of the nines were Mr. J.H. Towne, Jr., of Adams' Express Company and Mr. Jule Wentz, of the U.S. Treasury Department of this city. The play was exceedingly well conducted by both parties in the best spirit of emulation, and many of the players called forth the applause of the spectators. The Umpire, Mr. A.A. Dewey, of the U.S. Treasury Department, performed his duty in a most admirable manner, and to the entire satisfaction of all concerned.</em></p>
|Description=<p>The "Spirit of the Times," Dec. 17, 1864, reports on a Thanksgiving Day game in Vicksburg between two nines of the Mississippi Valley BBC. Wentz's nine lost to Tawne's nine, 18 to 6. The article gives a complete box score with the players' names.
<p>Vicksburg (1860 pop 4,591; 1870 pop. 12,443) is on the Mississippi River about halfway up the state's western border and about 40 miles W of Jackson, which is near the center of the state.</p>
Note--Julian A. Wentz (1842-1914) was a civilian railroad man born in NY, who came to Vicksburg during the civil war to help run the military railroads there. It is presume that the other ballplayers were civilian government employees.
|Sources=<p>The&nbsp;<em>Vicksburg Herald</em>, Oct. 15, Oct. 21, 1864</p>
The Vicksburg Daily Times, November 13, 1866, reports: “A game of Base Ball came off yesterday at the Arsenal grounds…. Messrs. Wentz and Borden were captains of the rival sides.” The New Orleans Times, December 27, 1866 says the Mississippi Valley Base Ball Club of Vicksburg has come to New Orleans to play.
|Has Source On Hand=No
Note--H. and W. Borden played in the 1864 game cites above.
|Comment=<p>For an excellent blog post on this club, see&nbsp;https://championhilz.wixsite.com/website/single-post/2020/04/14/The-Mississippi-Valley-Baseball-Club?fbclid=IwAR2X4xo4xCykcasYqEq9ivsksnhN4szhUEij7T4UaRAjOvteWV4NHiLGwbY</p>
</p><p>Vicksburg (1910 pop. about 14,800) is on the Mississippi River about halfway up the state's western border and about 40 miles W of Jackson, which is near the center of the state.
</p>
|Reviewed=Yes
|Reviewed=Yes
|Submitted by=Bruce Allardice
|Submitted by=Bruce Allardice
|First in Location=MS, United States
|Entered by=Bruce Allardice
|Entry Origin=Sabrpedia
|First in Location=MS
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|First Newspaper Mention=1864/11/01
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Nick Name Mississippi Valley
Earliest Known Date October 1864 -- Thanksgiving Day
Location Vicksburg, MS, United States
Description

The "Spirit of the Times," Dec. 17, 1864, reports on a Thanksgiving Day game in Vicksburg between two nines of the Mississippi Valley BBC. Wentz's nine lost to Tawne's nine, 18 to 6. The article gives a complete box score with the players' names. Note--Julian A. Wentz (1842-1914) was a civilian railroad man born in NY, who came to Vicksburg during the civil war to help run the military railroads there. It is presume that the other ballplayers were civilian government employees. The Vicksburg Daily Times, November 13, 1866, reports: “A game of Base Ball came off yesterday at the Arsenal grounds…. Messrs. Wentz and Borden were captains of the rival sides.” The New Orleans Times, December 27, 1866 says the Mississippi Valley Base Ball Club of Vicksburg has come to New Orleans to play. Note--H. and W. Borden played in the 1864 game cites above.

The Vicksburg Herald, Oct. 15, Oct. 21, 1864 notes practice games of this club. Same Dec. 10, 1864 reports on a meeting of this club.

The Daily Herald, November 26, 1864, stated the following:

The prize nines were dressed in the uniform of the club, which consists of black pants and white flannel over shirts trimmed with blue. As they appeared upon the ground, they presented quite as fine and lively a body of young men as we have seen assembled together for such a purpose since the days we were want to gather with ball and bat on the 'Village Green.'
The Captains of the nines were Mr. J.H. Towne, Jr., of Adams' Express Company and Mr. Jule Wentz, of the U.S. Treasury Department of this city. The play was exceedingly well conducted by both parties in the best spirit of emulation, and many of the players called forth the applause of the spectators. The Umpire, Mr. A.A. Dewey, of the U.S. Treasury Department, performed his duty in a most admirable manner, and to the entire satisfaction of all concerned.

Vicksburg (1860 pop 4,591; 1870 pop. 12,443) is on the Mississippi River about halfway up the state's western border and about 40 miles W of Jackson, which is near the center of the state.

Sources

The Vicksburg Herald, Oct. 15, Oct. 21, 1864

Comment

For an excellent blog post on this club, see https://championhilz.wixsite.com/website/single-post/2020/04/14/The-Mississippi-Valley-Baseball-Club?fbclid=IwAR2X4xo4xCykcasYqEq9ivsksnhN4szhUEij7T4UaRAjOvteWV4NHiLGwbY

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Found by Bruce Allardice
Entered by Bruce Allardice
First in Location MS
Entry Origin Sabrpedia

Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know

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Year Games Wins Losses Ties
1864 1 Played 0 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1867 3 Played 1 Won 2 Lost 0 Tied

Ballgames

Page Date City Borough State Team 1 Team 2 Score First in Contributor
Ballgame 1864-10-25 Vicksburg MS Mississippi Valley BBC of Vicksburg Mississippi Valley BBC of Vicksburg Bruce Allardice
Ballgame 1867-02-07 Vicksburg MS 24th United States Infantry Base Ball Club of Vicksburg, Mississippi Mississippi Valley BBC of Vicksburg 30 - 33 Jeff T. Giambrone
Ballgame 1867-02-10 Vicksburg MS 24th United States Infantry Base Ball Club of Vicksburg, Mississippi Mississippi Valley BBC of Vicksburg 33 - 24 Jeff T. Giambrone
Ballgame 1867-04-02 Vicksburg MS 24th United States Infantry Base Ball Club of Vicksburg, Mississippi Mississippi Valley BBC of Vicksburg 61 - 35 Jeff T. Giambrone

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Playing Fields

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