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|Name=White v Black in Hoboken on 17 June 1846
|Name=Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York v Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York on 17 June 1846
|Date=1846-06-17
|Coordinates=40.7439905, -74.0323626
|Entry Origin=Games Tab
|Entry Origin Url=http://protoball.org/Games_Tab:Greater_New_York_City#date1846-6-17
|Type of Date=Day
|Type of Date=Day
|Date=1846/06/17
|Country=United States
|State=NJ
|Borough=Hudson County
|City=Hoboken
|Field=Elysian Fields
|Field=Elysian Fields
|City=Hoboken
|Home Team=Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York
|State=NJ
|Home Score=14
|Country=United States
|Away Team=Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York
|Coordinates=40.7439905, -74.0323626
|Away Score=17
|Home Team=White
|Description=<p>This intra-club game was between the "Black" and the "White" squads of the team.&nbsp; Interestingly, before "White" had been written down, the book listed the opponent as "New York," but it was scratched out.&nbsp; This evidence indicates that the famous "first game" between the Knicks and New York Ball Club (formerly the Gothams) was scheduled to take place two days before it ultimately happened. However, mitigating all of this is the fact that the game does not appear until the very end of the first volume, after the 1849 season, when a number of other games from the 1846 and 1847 seasons are also recorded.&nbsp; It is uncertain as to why these games appear out of order.</p>
|Away Team=Black
|Sources=<p>(1) Knickerbocker game book (recorded in Sep 1849)</p>
|Description=<p>White (“New York” crossed out)</p> <p>Black</p> <p>(Knickerbocker BBC intra-club game)</p>
<p>(2) Cited in Zoss and Bowman, Diamonds in the Rough, p. 56</p>
|Sources=<p>(1) Knickerbocker game book (recorded in Sep 1849)</p> <p>(2) Cited in Zoss and Bowman, Diamonds in the Rough, p. 56</p>
|Has Source On Hand=No
|Reviewed=Yes
|Submitted by=Craig Waff
|Submitted by=Craig Waff
|Entry Origin=Games Tab
|Entry Origin Url=http://protoball.org/Games_Tab:Greater New York City#date1846-6-17
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Date of Game Wednesday, June 17, 1846
Location Hoboken, Hudson County, NJ, United States
Field Elysian Fields
Home Team Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York
Away Team Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York
Score 14 - 17
Description

This intra-club game was between the "Black" and the "White" squads of the team.  Interestingly, before "White" had been written down, the book listed the opponent as "New York," but it was scratched out.  This evidence indicates that the famous "first game" between the Knicks and New York Ball Club (formerly the Gothams) was scheduled to take place two days before it ultimately happened. However, mitigating all of this is the fact that the game does not appear until the very end of the first volume, after the 1849 season, when a number of other games from the 1846 and 1847 seasons are also recorded.  It is uncertain as to why these games appear out of order.

Sources

(1) Knickerbocker game book (recorded in Sep 1849)

(2) Cited in Zoss and Bowman, Diamonds in the Rough, p. 56

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Found by Craig Waff
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