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|Country=United States | |Country=United States | ||
|Coordinates=40.6331249, -89.39852830000001 | |Coordinates=40.6331249, -89.39852830000001 | ||
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|Game=Town Ball | |Game=Town Ball | ||
|Immediacy of Report=Retrospective | |Immediacy of Report=Retrospective | ||
|Age of Players=Adult | |Age of Players=Adult | ||
|Text=<p>James Gurley knew Abraham Lincoln from 1834, when Lincoln was 25. In 1866 he gave an informal interview to William Herndon, the late President's biographer and former law partner in Springfield IL. His 1866 recollection:</p> | |Text=<p>James Gurley (Gourley?) knew Abraham Lincoln from 1834, when Lincoln was 25. In 1866 he gave an informal interview to William Herndon, the late President's biographer and former law partner in Springfield IL. His 1866 recollection:</p> | ||
<p>"We played the old-fashioned game of town ball - jumped - ran - fought and danced. Lincoln played town ball - he hopped well - in 3 hops he would go 40.2 [feet?] on a dead level. . . . He was a good player - could catch a ball."</p> | <p>"We played the old-fashioned game of town ball - jumped - ran - fought and danced. Lincoln played town ball - he hopped well - in 3 hops he would go 40.2 [feet?] on a dead level. . . . He was a good player - could catch a ball."</p> | ||
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|Sources=<p>Douglas L. Wilson and Rodney O. Davis, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Herndon's Informants: Letters, Interviews,and Statements About Abraham Lincoln</span> (U Illinois Press, 1998), page | |Sources=<p>Douglas L. Wilson and Rodney O. Davis, eds., <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Herndon's Informants: Letters, Interviews, and Statements About Abraham Lincoln</span> (U Illinois Press, 1998), page 451.</p> | ||
<p>See also Beveridge, Albert J., <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Abraham Lincoln, 1809-1858</span> (Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, 1928), Volume I, page 298. The author provides source for this info as: "James Gourley's" statement, later established as 1866. Weik MSS. Per John Thorn, 7/9/04.</p> | <p>See also Beveridge, Albert J., <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Abraham Lincoln, 1809-1858</span> (Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, 1928), Volume I, page 298. The author provides source for this info as: "James Gourley's" statement, later established as 1866. Weik MSS. Per John Thorn, 7/9/04.</p> | ||
|Comment=<p>A previous Protoball entry, listed as #1840s.16: "He [Abraham Lincoln in the 1840s] joined with gusto in outdoor sports foot-races, jumping and hopping contests, town ball, wrestling . . . " Source | |Warning=<p>There is some ambiguity about the city intended in this recollection. Springfield IL and New Salem IL seem mostly likely locations.</p> | ||
<p>Earlier versions of this find were submitted by Richard Hershberger 2007) and John Thorn (2004). </p> | |Comment=<p>A previous Protoball entry, listed as #1840s.16: "He [Abraham Lincoln in the 1840s] joined with gusto in outdoor sports foot-races, jumping and hopping contests, town ball, wrestling . . . " <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Source: </span> a limited online version of the 1997 book edited by Douglas L Wilson and Rodney O. Davis, <span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Herndon's Informant</span>s</span> (U of Illinois Press, 1997 or 1998). Posted to 19CBB on 12/11/2007 by Richard Hershberger. Richard notes that the index to the book promises several other references to Lincoln's ballplaying but [Jan. 2008] reports that the ones he has found are unspecific.. <strong>Note:</strong> can we chase this book down and collect those references?</p> | ||
<p>Earlier versions of this find were submitted by Richard Hershberger (2007) and John Thorn (2004). </p> | |||
|Submitted by=Steve Gietschier | |Submitted by=Steve Gietschier | ||
|Submission Note=email of 12/12/2017. | |Submission Note=email of 12/12/2017. | ||
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| Text | James Gurley (Gourley?) knew Abraham Lincoln from 1834, when Lincoln was 25. In 1866 he gave an informal interview to William Herndon, the late President's biographer and former law partner in Springfield IL. His 1866 recollection: "We played the old-fashioned game of town ball - jumped - ran - fought and danced. Lincoln played town ball - he hopped well - in 3 hops he would go 40.2 [feet?] on a dead level. . . . He was a good player - could catch a ball."
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| Sources | Douglas L. Wilson and Rodney O. Davis, eds., Herndon's Informants: Letters, Interviews, and Statements About Abraham Lincoln (U Illinois Press, 1998), page 451. See also Beveridge, Albert J., Abraham Lincoln, 1809-1858 (Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, 1928), Volume I, page 298. The author provides source for this info as: "James Gourley's" statement, later established as 1866. Weik MSS. Per John Thorn, 7/9/04. |
| Warning | There is some ambiguity about the city intended in this recollection. Springfield IL and New Salem IL seem mostly likely locations. |
| Comment | A previous Protoball entry, listed as #1840s.16: "He [Abraham Lincoln in the 1840s] joined with gusto in outdoor sports foot-races, jumping and hopping contests, town ball, wrestling . . . " Source: a limited online version of the 1997 book edited by Douglas L Wilson and Rodney O. Davis, Herndon's Informants (U of Illinois Press, 1997 or 1998). Posted to 19CBB on 12/11/2007 by Richard Hershberger. Richard notes that the index to the book promises several other references to Lincoln's ballplaying but [Jan. 2008] reports that the ones he has found are unspecific.. Note: can we chase this book down and collect those references? Earlier versions of this find were submitted by Richard Hershberger (2007) and John Thorn (2004). Edit with form to add a comment |
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| Submitted by | Steve Gietschier |
| Submission Note | email of 12/12/2017. |
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1830s.16 Future President Lincoln Plays Town Ball, Joins Hopping Contests"
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