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|Year=1856
|Year=1856
|Year Number=33
|Year Number=33
|Headline=First Ball of the Base Ball Clubs Attracts 200 Couples
|Headline=First Ball of the Base Ball Clubs Attracts 200 Couples at Niblo's Saloon
|Salience=3
|Salience=3
|Tags=Ball in the Culture,  
|Tags=Ball in the Culture,  
|Country=USA
|Location=Greater New York City
|Country=United States
|Coordinates=40.7230126, -73.99741699999998
|State=NY
|State=NY
|City=NYC
|City=NYC
|Modern Address=the block between Broadway and Crosby Street
|Modern Address=the block between Broadway and Crosby Street
|Game=Base Ball,
|Game=Base Ball
|Immediacy of Report=Contemporary
|Immediacy of Report=Contemporary
|Age of Players=Adult
|Age of Players=Adult
|Text=<p>Seven clubs participated in the first Ball of the Base Ball Clubs, "at Niblo's", attracting about 200 couples. Ithe evening was pronounced "very satisfactory".</p>
|Text=<p>Seven clubs participated in the first Ball of the Base Ball Clubs, "at Niblo's", attracting about 200 couples. The evening was pronounced "very satisfactory".</p>
<p>Seven of the clubs attending were - Gotham, Baltic, Empire, Eckford, Harmony, Atlantic and Senior of Newark, NJ.&nbsp; (E. Miklich)</p>
<p>Organizers are discussed in the&nbsp;<strong>Supplemental Material</strong>, from Richard Hershberger, below</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
|Sources=<p><em>New York Tribune,&nbsp;</em>January 25, 1856</p>
|Sources=<p><em>New York Tribune,&nbsp;</em>January 25, 1856</p>
|Submitted by=Bob Tholkes
<p><em>New York Atlas,&nbsp;</em>January 6, 1856.</p>
|Submission Note=2/25/2014
|Submitted by=Bob Tholkes, Richard Hershberger
|Has Supplemental Text=No
|Submission Note=2/25/2014, 1/7/2020, 1/7/2024
|Reviewed=Yes
|Has Supplemental Text=Yes
}}
}}
<h2><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/19CBB/conversations/topics/17997;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY3N1bjl2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzM0ODk3NzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BG1zZ0lkAzE3OTk3BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1Nzg0NjIwNDc-">baseball banquet, January 1856 </a></h2>
<h4>Tue Jan&nbsp;7,&nbsp;2020 9:11&nbsp;am (PST) . Posted to 19CBB by Richard Hershberger</h4>
<p>We have previously discussed the abortive baseball convention in December of 1855.&nbsp; It bubbled up, then sank again, never thereafter to be seen.&nbsp; Or so I thought.&nbsp; Its stated purpose was to arrange a banquet and playing rules for the various clubs.&nbsp; The playing rules bit had to wait until early 1857. . . .&nbsp; &nbsp;The <span style="text-decoration: underline;">New York Atlas</span> has recently become available on genealogybank.&nbsp; The issue of January 6, 1856 has an advertisement for the banquet:</p>
<p>"The First Annual Ball and Supper of the Associated Base Ball Clubs, will take place a Niblo&rsquo;s Saloon, Jan., 23, 1856.&nbsp; Tickets admitting a Gentleman and two Ladies, $5.&nbsp; Tickets can be had of any of the following Committee:&nbsp; Thomas G. Van Cott, 84 Columbia st., Chas. G. Cornell, 68 Third st. Jas. Cameron, 92 Elm st. M. Grey, [illegible] Fifth st. L. M. Bergen, 58 Carlton av., Brooklyn."<br /> <br /> Van Cott is unsurprising.&nbsp; He was the great early (and unsung today) promoter of the game.&nbsp; I don't know anything about the next three.&nbsp; Bergen is an interesting inclusion.&nbsp; This is Leonard Bergen, of the Atlantics.&nbsp; He would a bit later be the hapless participant in one of the earliest pay-to-play scandals.<br /><br /></p>
<p>on 1/7/2024; E. Miklich added -&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thomas G Van Cott &ndash; Gotham Club.<br />Charles G Cornell &ndash; Baltic Club.<br />James Cameron &ndash; Empire Club.<br />M Grey &ndash; Eckford Club.<br />L M Bergen &ndash; Harmony Club.&nbsp; Was the original President.&nbsp; Moved to the Atlantic Club in 1856.</p>

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Modern Address the block between Broadway and Crosby Street
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Seven clubs participated in the first Ball of the Base Ball Clubs, "at Niblo's", attracting about 200 couples. The evening was pronounced "very satisfactory".

Seven of the clubs attending were - Gotham, Baltic, Empire, Eckford, Harmony, Atlantic and Senior of Newark, NJ.  (E. Miklich)

Organizers are discussed in the Supplemental Material, from Richard Hershberger, below

 

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New York Tribune, January 25, 1856

New York Atlas, January 6, 1856.

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Submitted by Bob Tholkes, Richard Hershberger
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baseball banquet, January 1856

Tue Jan 7, 2020 9:11 am (PST) . Posted to 19CBB by Richard Hershberger

We have previously discussed the abortive baseball convention in December of 1855.  It bubbled up, then sank again, never thereafter to be seen.  Or so I thought.  Its stated purpose was to arrange a banquet and playing rules for the various clubs.  The playing rules bit had to wait until early 1857. . . .   The New York Atlas has recently become available on genealogybank.  The issue of January 6, 1856 has an advertisement for the banquet:

"The First Annual Ball and Supper of the Associated Base Ball Clubs, will take place a Niblo’s Saloon, Jan., 23, 1856.  Tickets admitting a Gentleman and two Ladies, $5.  Tickets can be had of any of the following Committee:  Thomas G. Van Cott, 84 Columbia st., Chas. G. Cornell, 68 Third st. Jas. Cameron, 92 Elm st. M. Grey, [illegible] Fifth st. L. M. Bergen, 58 Carlton av., Brooklyn."

Van Cott is unsurprising.  He was the great early (and unsung today) promoter of the game.  I don't know anything about the next three.  Bergen is an interesting inclusion.  This is Leonard Bergen, of the Atlantics.  He would a bit later be the hapless participant in one of the earliest pay-to-play scandals.

on 1/7/2024; E. Miklich added - 

Thomas G Van Cott – Gotham Club.
Charles G Cornell – Baltic Club.
James Cameron – Empire Club.
M Grey – Eckford Club.
L M Bergen – Harmony Club.  Was the original President.  Moved to the Atlantic Club in 1856.