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|Headline=Organization Men | |Headline=Organization Men at the KBBC in 1848 | ||
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|Tags=Club Constitutions/Bylaws, | |Tags=Baseball Professionalism, Club Constitutions/Bylaws, Famous, | ||
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|Text=<p>"<span>Early references to the Knickerbockers' 1845 rules credit both William H. </span><span>Tucker and William R. Wheaton, with (Hall of Famer Alexander) Cartwright seldom if ever getting a </span><span>mention until (Duncan) Curry made an offhand remark to reporter Will Rankin during an </span><span>1877 stroll in the park (and even this remark was initially reported as a </span><span>reference to "Wadsworth" as the diagram-giver; only in 1908 was Rankin's </span><span>recall of Curry's attribution morphed into Cartwright).</span><br /><br /><span>Curry and Cartwright perhaps deserve more credit for the organization of the</span><br /><span>club (i.e., its by-laws) than the rules. In the 1848 Club Constitution, p.</span><br /><span>14:</span><br /><br /><span>Committee to Revise Constitution and By-Laws:</span><br /><span>D.L. Adams, Pres.</span><br /><span>A.J. Cartwright, Jr., Vice Pres</span><br /><span>Eugene Plunkett, Sec'y</span><br /><span>J.P. Mumford</span><br /><span>Duncan F. Curry</span></p> | |Text=<p>"<span>Early references to the Knickerbockers' 1845 rules credit both William H. </span><span>Tucker and William R. Wheaton, with (Hall of Famer Alexander) Cartwright seldom if ever getting a </span><span>mention until (Duncan) Curry made an offhand remark to reporter Will Rankin during an </span><span>1877 stroll in the park (and even this remark was initially reported as a </span><span>reference to "Wadsworth" as the diagram-giver; only in 1908 was Rankin's </span><span>recall of Curry's attribution morphed into Cartwright).</span><br /><br /><span>Curry and Cartwright perhaps deserve more credit for the organization of the</span><br /><span>club (i.e., its by-laws) than the rules. In the 1848 Club Constitution, p.</span><br /><span>14:</span><br /><br /><span>Committee to Revise Constitution and By-Laws:</span><br /><span>D.L. Adams, Pres.</span><br /><span>A.J. Cartwright, Jr., Vice Pres</span><br /><span>Eugene Plunkett, Sec'y</span><br /><span>J.P. Mumford</span><br /><span>Duncan F. Curry</span></p> | ||
|Sources=<p>19cbb post by John Thorn, June 9, 2003, referencing the 1848 revision of the Knick's constitution and bylaws (see 1848.1)</p> | |Sources=<p>19cbb post by John Thorn, June 9, 2003, referencing the 1848 revision of the Knick's constitution and bylaws (see 1848.1)</p> | ||
|Submitted by=Bob Tholkes, | |Warning=<p>As of 2016, recent scholarship has shown little evidence that Alexander Cartwright played a central role in forging or adapting the Knickerbocker rules. See Richard Hershberger, <em>The Creation of the Alexander Cartwright Myth (</em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Baseball Research Journal</span>, 2014), and John Thorn, "<em>The Making of a New York Hero" dated </em>November 2015, at <a href="http://ourgame.mlblogs.com/2015/11/30/abner-cartwright/.">http://ourgame.mlblogs.com/2015/11/30/abner-cartwright/.</a></p> | ||
|Submission Note=2/9/2015 | <p>John's concluding paragraph is: "Recent scholarship has revealed the history of baseball's "creation" to be a lie agreed upon. Why, then, does the legend continue to outstrip the fact? "Creation myths, wrote Stephen Jay Gould, in explaining the appeal of Cooperstown, "identify heroes and sacred places, while evolutionary stories provide no palpable, particular thing as a symbol for reverence, worship, or patriotism."</p> | ||
|Submitted by=Bob Tholkes, LMc | |||
|Submission Note=2/9/2015, 3/9/2016 | |||
|Reviewed=Yes | |||
|Has Supplemental Text=No | |Has Supplemental Text=No | ||
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| Text | "Early references to the Knickerbockers' 1845 rules credit both William H. Tucker and William R. Wheaton, with (Hall of Famer Alexander) Cartwright seldom if ever getting a mention until (Duncan) Curry made an offhand remark to reporter Will Rankin during an 1877 stroll in the park (and even this remark was initially reported as a reference to "Wadsworth" as the diagram-giver; only in 1908 was Rankin's recall of Curry's attribution morphed into Cartwright). |
| Sources | 19cbb post by John Thorn, June 9, 2003, referencing the 1848 revision of the Knick's constitution and bylaws (see 1848.1) |
| Warning | As of 2016, recent scholarship has shown little evidence that Alexander Cartwright played a central role in forging or adapting the Knickerbocker rules. See Richard Hershberger, The Creation of the Alexander Cartwright Myth (Baseball Research Journal, 2014), and John Thorn, "The Making of a New York Hero" dated November 2015, at http://ourgame.mlblogs.com/2015/11/30/abner-cartwright/. John's concluding paragraph is: "Recent scholarship has revealed the history of baseball's "creation" to be a lie agreed upon. Why, then, does the legend continue to outstrip the fact? "Creation myths, wrote Stephen Jay Gould, in explaining the appeal of Cooperstown, "identify heroes and sacred places, while evolutionary stories provide no palpable, particular thing as a symbol for reverence, worship, or patriotism." |
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| Submitted by | Bob Tholkes, LMc |
| Submission Note | 2/9/2015, 3/9/2016 |
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