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Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 May 1856 1

Name
Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 May 1856 1

Date
1856-05-28 00:00:00

Type Of Date
Day

City
Newark

Borough
Essex County

State
NJ

Country
United States

Coordinates
40.735657 -74.1723667

Home Team
Empire Club of Newark

Away Team
Newark Club of Newark

Home Score
17

Away Score
17

Game Number
1

Sources

Newark Advertiser, 05/27/1856


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Comment

Home/Away designation is random.


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Entered By
Gene Draschner

Type
Ballgame

Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 August 1856

Name
Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 August 1856

Date
1856-08-28 00:00:00

Type Of Date
Day

City
Newark

Borough
Essex County

State
NJ

Country
United States

Coordinates
40.735657 -74.1723667

Home Team
Empire Club of Newark

Away Team
Newark Club of Newark

Home Score
12

Away Score
21

Description

Home/away designation is random.


Sources

Newark Advertiser, 08/29/1856


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Entered By
Gene Draschner

Type
Ballgame

Columbia Club of Hoboken v Union Club of Hoboken on 9 September 1856

Name
Columbia Club of Hoboken v Union Club of Hoboken on 9 September 1856

Date
1856-09-09 00:00:00

Type Of Date
Day

Field
Columbia Grounds

City
Hoboken

Borough
Hudson County

State
NJ

Country
United States

Coordinates
40.7439905 -74.0323626

Home Team
Columbia Club of Hoboken

Away Team
Union Club of Hoboken

Home Score
13

Away Score
21

Sources

New York Clipper, 09/20/1856


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0

Comment

Home/away designation is random.


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Entered By
Gene Draschner

Type
Ballgame

Union Club of New Brunswick v Liberty Club of New Brunswick on 19 August 1857

Name
Union Club of New Brunswick v Liberty Club of New Brunswick on 19 August 1857

Date
1857-08-19 00:00:00

Type Of Date
Day

Field
Near cemetery

City
New Brunswick

Borough
Middlesex County

State
NJ

Country
United States

Coordinates
40.4862157 -74.4518188

Home Team
Union Club of New Brunswick

Away Team
Liberty Club of New Brunswick

Home Score
8

Away Score
46

Innings
9

Sources

New Brunswick Daily News, 08/20/1857


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0

Comment

Home/Away designation is random.


Submitted By


Entered By
Gene Draschner

Type
Ballgame

Chronology

1813.3 As a Lad of 9, Hawthorne is Hurt Playing Ball at School, Sees 'Several Physicians'

Date
1813

Tags
Famous, Hazard

City
Salem

State
MA

Country
United States

Coordinates
42.51954 -70.8967155

Age Of Players
Juvenile

Notables
Nathaniel Hawthorne

Text

[A] "Young Hawthorne was hit on the leg while playing "bat and ball" on November 10, 1813 [1],  and he became lame and bedridden for a year, though several physicians could find nothing wrong with him." [2]

[B]  "Less than six weeks after Uncle Richard left Salem for good, Nathaniel injured his foot at school while playing, Ebe [his sister]  said, with a bat and ball."

 


Sources

[A]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Hawthorne

Note [1] is attributed to 

  • Miller, Edwin Haviland. Salem Is My Dwelling Place: A Life of Nathaniel Hawthorne. Iowa City: University of Iowa Press, 1991. ISBN 0-87745-332-2

Note [2] is attributed to 

  • Mellow, James R. (1980). Nathaniel Hawthorne in His Times. Boston: Houghton Mifflin. ISBN 0-395-27602-0.

[B]  Brenda Wineapple,  Hawthorne: A Life  (Random House, 2003).


Comment

As of June 2022, Protoball is not aware of accounts of ballplaying in Hawthorne's works.  For a reference to his note on 1862 ballplaying near Alexandria VA, see 1862.47


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Submission Note
Email to John Thorn, 6/7/2022

1825c.1 Thurlow Weed Recalls Baseball in Rochester NY

Date
1825

Tags
Famous

Location
Western New York

Age Of Players
Adult

Immediacy Of Report
Retrospective

Text

"A baseball club, numbering nearly fifty members, met every afternoon during the ball playing season. Though the members of the club embraced persons between eighteen and forty, it attracted the young and old. The ball ground, containing some eight or ten acres, known as Mumford's meadow . . . ."     -- Thurlow Weed

[Weed goes on to list prominent local professional people, including doctors and lawyers, among the players.]

The experience is also represented in a 1947 novel, Grandfather Stories.  "[The game] was clearly baseball, not town ball, as the old man described the positioning of the fielders and mentioned that it took three outs to retire the batting side."   -- Tom Altherr.    


Sources

Weed, Thurlow, Life of Thurlow Weed [Houghton Mifflin, Boston, 1883], volume 1, p. 203. Per Robert Henderson ref #159.

Samuel Hopkins Adams, Grandfather Stories (Random House, 1955 -- orig pub'd 1947), 146-149.


Query

Did Weed advert to 3-out half innings, or did Adams?


1827.2 Story Places Baseball in Rochester NY

Date
1827

Tags
Famous

Location
Western New York

City
Rochester

State
NY

Country
United States

Coordinates
43.16103 -77.6109219

Age Of Players
Adult

Text

A story, evidently set in 1880 in Rochester, involves three boys who convince their grandfather to attend a Rochester-Buffalo game. The grandfather contrasts the game to that which he had played in 1827.

He describes intramural play among the 50 members of a local club, with teams of 12 to 15 players per side, a three-out-side-out rule, plugging, a bound rule, and strict knuckles-below-knees pitching. He also recalls attributes that we do not see elsewhere in descriptions of early ballplaying: a requirement that each baseman keep a foot on his base until the ball is hit, a seven-run homer when the ball went into a sumac thicket and the runners re-circled the bases, coin-flips to provide "arbitrament" for disputed plays, and the team with the fewest runs in an inning being replaced by a third team for the next inning ["three-old-cat gone crazy," says one of the boys]. The grandfather's reflection does not comment on the use of stakes instead of bases, the name used for the old game, the relative size or weight of the ball, or the lack of foul ground - in fact he says that outs could be made on fouls.

 


Sources

Samuel Hopkins Adams, "Baseball in Mumford's Pasture Lot," Grandfather Stories (Random House, New York, 1947), pp. 143 - 156. Full text is unavailable via Google Books as of 12/4/2008.


Comment

Adams' use of a frame-within-a-frame device is interesting to baseball history buffs, but the authenticity of the recollected game is hard to judge in a work of fiction. Mumford's lot was in fact an early Rochester ballplaying venue, and Thurlow Weed (see entry #1825c.1) wrote of club play in that period. Priscilla Astifan has been looking into Adams' expertise on early Rochester baseball. See #1828c.3 for another reference to Adams' interest in baseball about a decade before the modern game evolved in New York City.


Query

We welcome input on the essential nature of this story. Fiction? Fictionalized memoir? Historical novel?


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Submission Note
Email of 4/9/2013

1842.12 Use in VA of "Base Ball"

Date
1842

Tags
Contemp. "Base Ball" usage

City
Alexandria

State
VA

Country
United States

Coordinates
38.8048355 -77.0469214

Game
Base Ball

Age Of Players
Youth

Immediacy Of Report
Contemporary

Text

"Some of us after this engaged in a game of base ball, as a pleasant recreation."


Sources

Memoir and Sermons of the Rev. William Duval, published in Richmond, Virginia in 1854 by his colleague the Rev. Cornelius Walker. p. 26.


Comment

Bob Tholkes notes: "I have been preaching for some time now that "base ball" and "round ball" and "town ball" were regional dialectal synonyms for the same game. For the most part there is a clear division between "base ball" territory and "town ball" territory, with 'town ball' being used in Pennsylvania, the Ohio River watershed, and the South.

 "I have come across what seems to be an unblemished early use of "base ball" in Virginia...It is perfectly obvious that 'base ball' is an older term than 'town ball'. Presumably "base ball" was the term used throughout anglophone North America in colonial times, and "town ball" arose in some place (my guess is Pennsylvania, but I can't begin to prove it) and spread west and south. So this Virginia example could be a survival of the older term, or it could be a random later borrowing from the north."

"Reverend Duval was born in 1822 outside of Richmond, and the family moved into town when he was a small child. In 1842 he entered the Virginia Theological Seminary, a major Episcopal seminary in Alexandria, Virginia. There he kept a diary. The entry above is for October 3, 1842. (per 19cbb post by Richard Hershberger, July 27, 2011)."

Alexandria VA is immediately outside the District of Columbia on the Potomac River.


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Submission Note
2/21/2015

1872.4 Harry Wright Offers Game, Players, to Harvard

Date
1872

Tags
Business of Baseball, Harvard College, College

Location
Boston

City
Boston

State
MA

Country
United States

Coordinates
42.3600825 -71.0588801

Game
Base Ball

Age Of Players
Adult

Immediacy Of Report
Contemporary

Holiday
Fast Day

Text

Letter from Harry Wright, of the second-year Boston pro league club, to a representative of the Harvard club, March 18, 1872:

". . . would it be agreeable to play . . . Saturday April 6th . . . upon our grounds . . .

We propose having our first game played on Fast Day, weather permitting

Harry Wright, Secy"


Sources

 From the Spalding Collection at the New York Public Library


Comment
Richard Hershberger, 3/18/2022
 
"150 years ago today in baseball: Harry Wright is making arrangements with the Harvard ball team. If I am reading it correctly, the secretary of the Harvard club goes by "J. Cheever Goodwin." I hate him already. Wright proposes a date just two and a half weeks out. This is typical of scheduling in this era, done on the fly. It also was a major pain. A lot of Wright's correspondence consists of back and forth to find a date that works for both sides.
I'm not sure what is the story about the offer to let Harvard use the Boston grounds. Harvard had a field, but I don't know if it was enclosed at this period. You can't charge admission if there is no fence. This would explain the discussion here, where we can assume that the "satisfactory arrangements" he mentions is a discreet way to say "financial arrangements," with the Boston club getting a piece of the action.
 
Then there is the discussion of the Fast Day game. Fast Day is an obsolete New England holiday: a quasi-pagan fertility ritual where people were supposed to go to church and look solemn in order to ensure a good harvest. In practice they went to ball games. It was the traditional opening of the baseball season. This year it will be on April 4. Wright is arranging the "picked nine" the Bostons will trounce. Sometimes a picked nine was an impromptu affair, picking players from the crowd. This one is a bit more organized, with the players chosen ahead of time and publicized. Wright is offering three slots to Harvard. He doesn't specify which positions. This picked nine is not totally random, but neither is it totally organized."
 
Joanne Hulbert, FB posting, 3/18/2022:
 
"Yes, Richard, Fast Day was made obsolete by baseball. But who wants to eliminate a holiday off the annual schedule? No one. This is how Patriots Day, April 19 was added to replace Fast Day - and Patriot's Day is still to this day an important baseball day in Boston. It is the one day in Boston when there is always a Red Sox home game on the schedule."
 
Richard replied, 3/18/2022:
 
"My take is that Fast Day was made obsolete by New England's cultural shift, from Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God to Walden Pond. But the point about Patriot's Day is entirely fair."
 
Bruce Allardice added, 3-19-2022:
 
"It was common for pro league teams to play amateur clubs, especially early in the year. The 1876 Chicago White Stockings played 2 local amateur clubs before their regular season started, as sort of a warm-up. They also played 30+ amateur, semi-pro and non-league pro clubs during the year.
 
 The [Boston club] played the Tufts College club 4-24-72, winning 43-5 (Boston Herald 4-25-72). 
 
The April 4th game was played, against a 'picked nine' of local amateurs that included several from the Harvard team. The Red Sox won 32-0. (Boston Journal, 4-5-72). The amateurs made only 3 hits off Spalding's pitching."

 
 


Query

Asking, 3/18/2022:

Was it common for pro league clubs to play amateur clubs?  (see BA response, above)

Did the game come off?

Asking, 3/19/2022:

Was the Boston club known as the Red Stockings in 1872?

 

Was the proposed game to amount to a pre-season warmup for the Boston pros?


Source Image
Wright v harvard 1872.jpeg


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Submission Note
FB posting, 3/18/2020

1872.6 Umpiring Evolves As A Profession: Certification, Bipartisan Pay

Date
1872

Tags
Baseball Professionalism, Business of Baseball

City
New York

State
NY

Country
United States

Coordinates
40.7127753 -74.0059728

Game
Base Ball

Age Of Players
Adult

Immediacy Of Report
Contemporary

Text

"Having pointed out the evil of indiscriminate selection of umpires, we will now suggest a remedy.

And this is the appointment of certain persons by the annual convention to act as umpires, and who will receive a certain sum -- say $10 and their traveling expenses -- for every game they umpire . . . .

The contending clubs can each pay a moiety of the expenses, and it will fall heavily n neither." 

 


Sources

New York Sunday Dispatch, May 19, 1872.


Comment

From Richard Hershberger, 150 years ago in baseball, May 19, 2022.

"The umpire question. Umpire selection in the early days was very informal. Sometimes arrangements would be made ahead of time, but even for important matches it was not unknown for the two captains to pick a guy out from the crowd. It would usually be someone they both knew, so it wasn't totally random, but if he had not shown up, they would have picked someone else.

Here in 1872 this system is wearing thin. This is the professional era and the stakes are higher. In today's excerpt, we see a radical suggestion: pay the guy. This will start happening soon. It will help, but won't solve the problem entirely. There still is the matter of finding someone both captains agree upon. The next decade or so will see endless overly elaborate schemes to come up with an equitable system. The underlying problem is that even once everyone agrees the umpire needs to be paid, no one wants to pay enough for this to be a full-time job. Employing part-timers means they are using local guys, with all this entails. The bickering will be endless. Or at least it will be until they finally bite the bullet and go with a full-time umpire corps employed by the league. That won't be until the 1880s. Here in 1872, the NA doesn't even have a league structure to run an umpire corps, much less the operating funds.

The article here suggests $10 per game. This won't be enough to persuade capable men to put up with grief for two hours. The going rate will settle in at $15. That is roughly equivalent to $300 to $400 in today's money."


Query

What is a good general history of umpiring? 


Source Image
Paying umpires 1872.jpg


Submitted By


Submission Note
FB Posting of 5/19/2022

Bibliography

The Story of Baseball

Author
Rosenburg, J. M.

Year Of Publication
1962

Publisher
Random House

Game
Baseball

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