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Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 May 1856 1
Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 May 1856 1
Date
1856-05-28 00:00:00
Type Of Date
Day
City
Newark
Borough
Essex County
State
NJ
Country
United States
Coordinates
40.735657 -74.1723667
Home Team
Empire Club of Newark
Away Team
Newark Club of Newark
Home Score
17
Away Score
17
Game Number
1
Sources
Newark Advertiser, 05/27/1856
Has Source On Hand
0
Comment
Home/Away designation is random.
Submitted By
Bob Tholkes
Entered By
Gene Draschner
Type
Ballgame
Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 August 1856
Empire Club of Newark v Newark Club of Newark on 28 August 1856
Date
1856-08-28 00:00:00
Type Of Date
Day
City
Newark
Borough
Essex County
State
NJ
Country
United States
Coordinates
40.735657 -74.1723667
Home Team
Empire Club of Newark
Away Team
Newark Club of Newark
Home Score
12
Away Score
21
Description
Home/away designation is random.
Sources
Newark Advertiser, 08/29/1856
Has Source On Hand
0
Submitted By
Bob Tholkes
Entered By
Gene Draschner
Type
Ballgame
Columbia Club of Hoboken v Union Club of Hoboken on 9 September 1856
Columbia Club of Hoboken v Union Club of Hoboken on 9 September 1856
Date
1856-09-09 00:00:00
Type Of Date
Day
Field
Columbia Grounds
City
Hoboken
Borough
Hudson County
State
NJ
Country
United States
Coordinates
40.7439905 -74.0323626
Home Team
Columbia Club of Hoboken
Away Team
Union Club of Hoboken
Home Score
13
Away Score
21
Sources
New York Clipper, 09/20/1856
Has Source On Hand
0
Comment
Home/away designation is random.
Submitted By
Bob Tholkes
Entered By
Gene Draschner
Type
Ballgame
Union Club of New Brunswick v Liberty Club of New Brunswick on 19 August 1857
Union Club of New Brunswick v Liberty Club of New Brunswick on 19 August 1857
Date
1857-08-19 00:00:00
Type Of Date
Day
Field
Near cemetery
City
New Brunswick
Borough
Middlesex County
State
NJ
Country
United States
Coordinates
40.4862157 -74.4518188
Home Team
Union Club of New Brunswick
Away Team
Liberty Club of New Brunswick
Home Score
8
Away Score
46
Innings
9
Sources
New Brunswick Daily News, 08/20/1857
Has Source On Hand
0
Comment
Home/Away designation is random.
Submitted By
Bob Tholkes
Entered By
Gene Draschner
Type
Ballgame
Chronology
1813.3 As a Lad of 9, Hawthorne is Hurt Playing Ball at School, Sees 'Several Physicians'
1813
Tags
City
Salem
State
MA
Country
United States
Coordinates
42.51954 -70.8967155
Age Of Players
Juvenile
Notables
Nathaniel Hawthorne
Text
[A] "Young Hawthorne was hit on the leg while playing "bat and ball" on November 10, 1813 [1], and he became lame and bedridden for a year, though several physicians could find nothing wrong with him." [2]
[B] "Less than six weeks after Uncle Richard left Salem for good, Nathaniel injured his foot at school while playing, Ebe [his sister] said, with a bat and ball."
Sources
[A] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Hawthorne
Note [1] is attributed to
- Miller, Edwin Haviland. Salem Is My Dwelling Place: A Life of Nathaniel Hawthorne. Iowa City: University of Iowa Press, 1991. ISBN 0-87745-332-2
Note [2] is attributed to
- Mellow, James R. (1980). Nathaniel Hawthorne in His Times. Boston: Houghton Mifflin. ISBN 0-395-27602-0.
[B] Brenda Wineapple, Hawthorne: A Life (Random House, 2003).
Comment
As of June 2022, Protoball is not aware of accounts of ballplaying in Hawthorne's works. For a reference to his note on 1862 ballplaying near Alexandria VA, see 1862.47.
Submitted By
Bruce Weber
Submission Note
Email to John Thorn, 6/7/2022
1825c.1 Thurlow Weed Recalls Baseball in Rochester NY
1825
Tags
Location
Western New York
Age Of Players
Adult
Immediacy Of Report
Retrospective
Text
"A baseball club, numbering nearly fifty members, met every afternoon during the ball playing season. Though the members of the club embraced persons between eighteen and forty, it attracted the young and old. The ball ground, containing some eight or ten acres, known as Mumford's meadow . . . ." -- Thurlow Weed
[Weed goes on to list prominent local professional people, including doctors and lawyers, among the players.]
The experience is also represented in a 1947 novel, Grandfather Stories. "[The game] was clearly baseball, not town ball, as the old man described the positioning of the fielders and mentioned that it took three outs to retire the batting side." -- Tom Altherr.
Sources
Weed, Thurlow, Life of Thurlow Weed [Houghton Mifflin, Boston, 1883], volume 1, p. 203. Per Robert Henderson ref #159.
Samuel Hopkins Adams, Grandfather Stories (Random House, 1955 -- orig pub'd 1947), 146-149.
Query
Did Weed advert to 3-out half innings, or did Adams?
1827.2 Story Places Baseball in Rochester NY
1827
Tags
Location
Western New York
City
Rochester
State
NY
Country
United States
Coordinates
43.16103 -77.6109219
Age Of Players
Adult
Text
A story, evidently set in 1880 in Rochester, involves three boys who convince their grandfather to attend a Rochester-Buffalo game. The grandfather contrasts the game to that which he had played in 1827.
He describes intramural play among the 50 members of a local club, with teams of 12 to 15 players per side, a three-out-side-out rule, plugging, a bound rule, and strict knuckles-below-knees pitching. He also recalls attributes that we do not see elsewhere in descriptions of early ballplaying: a requirement that each baseman keep a foot on his base until the ball is hit, a seven-run homer when the ball went into a sumac thicket and the runners re-circled the bases, coin-flips to provide "arbitrament" for disputed plays, and the team with the fewest runs in an inning being replaced by a third team for the next inning ["three-old-cat gone crazy," says one of the boys]. The grandfather's reflection does not comment on the use of stakes instead of bases, the name used for the old game, the relative size or weight of the ball, or the lack of foul ground - in fact he says that outs could be made on fouls.
Sources
Samuel Hopkins Adams, "Baseball in Mumford's Pasture Lot," Grandfather Stories (Random House, New York, 1947), pp. 143 - 156. Full text is unavailable via Google Books as of 12/4/2008.
Comment
Adams' use of a frame-within-a-frame device is interesting to baseball history buffs, but the authenticity of the recollected game is hard to judge in a work of fiction. Mumford's lot was in fact an early Rochester ballplaying venue, and Thurlow Weed (see entry #1825c.1) wrote of club play in that period. Priscilla Astifan has been looking into Adams' expertise on early Rochester baseball. See #1828c.3 for another reference to Adams' interest in baseball about a decade before the modern game evolved in New York City.
Query
We welcome input on the essential nature of this story. Fiction? Fictionalized memoir? Historical novel?
Submitted By
Priscilla Astifan
Submission Note
Email of 4/9/2013
1842.12 Use in VA of "Base Ball"
1842
Tags
City
Alexandria
State
VA
Country
United States
Coordinates
38.8048355 -77.0469214
Game
Base Ball
Age Of Players
Youth
Immediacy Of Report
Contemporary
Text
"Some of us after this engaged in a game of base ball, as a pleasant recreation."
Sources
Memoir and Sermons of the Rev. William Duval, published in Richmond, Virginia in 1854 by his colleague the Rev. Cornelius Walker. p. 26.
Comment
Bob Tholkes notes: "I have been preaching for some time now that "base ball" and "round ball" and "town ball" were regional dialectal synonyms for the same game. For the most part there is a clear division between "base ball" territory and "town ball" territory, with 'town ball' being used in Pennsylvania, the Ohio River watershed, and the South.
"I have come across what seems to be an unblemished early use of "base ball" in Virginia...It is perfectly obvious that 'base ball' is an older term than 'town ball'. Presumably "base ball" was the term used throughout anglophone North America in colonial times, and "town ball" arose in some place (my guess is Pennsylvania, but I can't begin to prove it) and spread west and south. So this Virginia example could be a survival of the older term, or it could be a random later borrowing from the north."
"Reverend Duval was born in 1822 outside of Richmond, and the family moved into town when he was a small child. In 1842 he entered the Virginia Theological Seminary, a major Episcopal seminary in Alexandria, Virginia. There he kept a diary. The entry above is for October 3, 1842. (per 19cbb post by Richard Hershberger, July 27, 2011)."
Alexandria VA is immediately outside the District of Columbia on the Potomac River.
Submitted By
Bob Tholkes
Submission Note
2/21/2015
1872.4 Harry Wright Offers Game, Players, to Harvard
1872
Tags
Location
Boston
City
Boston
State
MA
Country
United States
Coordinates
42.3600825 -71.0588801
Game
Base Ball
Age Of Players
Adult
Immediacy Of Report
Contemporary
Holiday
Fast Day
Text
Letter from Harry Wright, of the second-year Boston pro league club, to a representative of the Harvard club, March 18, 1872:
". . . would it be agreeable to play . . . Saturday April 6th . . . upon our grounds . . .
We propose having our first game played on Fast Day, weather permitting
Harry Wright, Secy"
Sources
From the Spalding Collection at the New York Public Library
Comment
Query
Asking, 3/18/2022:
Was it common for pro league clubs to play amateur clubs? (see BA response, above)
Did the game come off?
Asking, 3/19/2022:
Was the Boston club known as the Red Stockings in 1872?
Was the proposed game to amount to a pre-season warmup for the Boston pros?
Source Image
Submitted By
Richard Hershberger
Submission Note
FB posting, 3/18/2020
1872.6 Umpiring Evolves As A Profession: Certification, Bipartisan Pay
1872
Tags
City
New York
State
NY
Country
United States
Coordinates
40.7127753 -74.0059728
Game
Base Ball
Age Of Players
Adult
Immediacy Of Report
Contemporary
Text
"Having pointed out the evil of indiscriminate selection of umpires, we will now suggest a remedy.
And this is the appointment of certain persons by the annual convention to act as umpires, and who will receive a certain sum -- say $10 and their traveling expenses -- for every game they umpire . . . .
The contending clubs can each pay a moiety of the expenses, and it will fall heavily n neither."
Sources
New York Sunday Dispatch, May 19, 1872.
Comment
From Richard Hershberger, 150 years ago in baseball, May 19, 2022.
"The umpire question. Umpire selection in the early days was very informal. Sometimes arrangements would be made ahead of time, but even for important matches it was not unknown for the two captains to pick a guy out from the crowd. It would usually be someone they both knew, so it wasn't totally random, but if he had not shown up, they would have picked someone else.
Here in 1872 this system is wearing thin. This is the professional era and the stakes are higher. In today's excerpt, we see a radical suggestion: pay the guy. This will start happening soon. It will help, but won't solve the problem entirely. There still is the matter of finding someone both captains agree upon. The next decade or so will see endless overly elaborate schemes to come up with an equitable system. The underlying problem is that even once everyone agrees the umpire needs to be paid, no one wants to pay enough for this to be a full-time job. Employing part-timers means they are using local guys, with all this entails. The bickering will be endless. Or at least it will be until they finally bite the bullet and go with a full-time umpire corps employed by the league. That won't be until the 1880s. Here in 1872, the NA doesn't even have a league structure to run an umpire corps, much less the operating funds.
The article here suggests $10 per game. This won't be enough to persuade capable men to put up with grief for two hours. The going rate will settle in at $15. That is roughly equivalent to $300 to $400 in today's money."
Query
What is a good general history of umpiring?
Source Image
Submitted By
Richard Hershberger
Submission Note
FB Posting of 5/19/2022
Bibliography
The Story of Baseball
Year Of Publication
1962
Publisher
Random House
Game
Baseball
Is In Main Bibliography
1