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    • 1872.15  + (<div class="x1n2onr6 x1iorvi4 x4uap5 x1 … <div class="x1n2onr6 x1iorvi4 x4uap5 x18d9i69 x1swvt13 x78zum5 x1q0g3np x1a2a7pz"></br><div class="x1r8uery x1iyjqo2 x6ikm8r x10wlt62 x1pi30zi"></br><div class="xv55zj0 x1vvkbs x1rg5ohu xxymvpz"></br><div class="xh8yej3 xxymvpz x1n2onr6 x3nfvp2"></br><div class="xh8yej3 xeuugli xs83m0k x1iyjqo2 xdl72j9"></br><div class="xmjcpbm x1tlxs6b x1g8br2z x1gn5b1j x230xth x9f619 xzsf02u x1rg5ohu xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x193iq5w x1mzt3pk x1n2onr6 xeaf4i8 x13faqbe"></br><div class="x1ye3gou xwib8y2 xn6708d x1y1aw1k"></br><div class="x1iorvi4 xjkvuk6 x1lliihq"></br><div class="xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs"></br><div dir="auto">[] Are we seeing modern "standings" (perhaps with winning pct, games behind) any time soon? Why would they list teams alphabetically rather than by number of wins?</div></br><div dir="auto"> </div></br><div dir="auto"><a class="x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz x1heor9g xt0b8zv" tabindex="0" href="https://www.facebook.com/richard.hershberger.16?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDo1NDY4NjYwMDI2NTIxMzQ2XzIzODk4Njk0MDExNzk5NDY%3D&__cft__[0]=AZUgz5YvrcCa3_mwwAYlmV9giB-8QFXfCvvSnTSb8N-_DaOjb5O-5-LZY_-cU-Orc4j7dZSMzru2nup_jrYhnSnlVd95BuIEAzsolHN7qTpW9livY7o8UsydVeQZBVq1Y-Y&__tn__=R]-R"><span class="x3nfvp2"><span class="x193iq5w xeuugli x13faqbe x1vvkbs x1xmvt09 x1lliihq x1s928wv xhkezso x1gmr53x x1cpjm7i x1fgarty x1943h6x x4zkp8e x676frb x1nxh6w3 x1sibtaa x1s688f xzsf02u" dir="auto">Richard Hershberger</span></span></a>, 10/29/2022 -- "I'm not actually sure when we start to see the modern format. That passed by me without my consciously noting. Sometime in the 1880s, maybe?"</div></br><div dir="auto"> </div></br><div dir="auto"> </div></br><div dir="auto">[] Is it likely that cricket already used box scores by 1845?  Would that have influenced Chadwick and others v=covering base ball?</div></br></div></br></div></br></div></br></div></br></div></br></div></br></div></br></div></br></div>scores by 1845?  Would that have influenced Chadwick and others v=covering base ball?</div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div>)
    • 1858.61  + (<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">< … <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"><span style="font-size: medium;">Jeff Kittel notes:   "</span></span><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"><span style="font-size: medium;">Protoball doesn't have any references to wicket clubs in Illinois during this period, although there is a reference to a 1857 club in Iowa. Ottawa and Marseilles are in LaSalle County, Illinois, on the Illinois River, about 50 miles southwest of Chicago.  It's possible that the game experienced a period of popularity in central Illinois and Iowa.  Clinton City, where the Iowa wicket club was located, is on the Mississippi, about sixty miles west of Ottawa and Marseilles.  Now the headline says that this was a game of base ball, rather than wicket, but the box score, which I attached, is kind of odd - three innings, possibly playing first to 200 runs.  Sadly, they don't give us any information on the number of players per side."    </span></span></p>s per side."    </span></span></p>)
    • 1848.18  + (<p>"Bantam" game?</p>)
    • 1840c.34  + (<p>"Leaping and jumping games?</p>)
    • 1847.18  + (<p>"Long ball": See 1853.20.</p> <p>"B-hoys": See 1847.14.</p> <p>Can we determine the ages of the players?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1853.6  + (<p>"Mattitue?"  "Oysterponds?"</p>)
    • 1846.23  + (<p>"Otto Cottage?"</p>)
    • 1828.19  + (<p>"Pedal members"? A pretty good Harvard friend of Protoball can't explain this term.</p> <p>"Delta"?  </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1830s.29  + (<p>"Sow Ball?"</p>)
    • 1827.1  + (<p>"The fellow in the middle?"  Does this suggest the lack of foul ground?</p> <p>What/where is Bridgewater?  Was Bridgewater MA Latham's home town, maybe?</p>)
    • 1861.4  + (<p>"interesting phrases"?</p>)
    • 1871.4  + (<p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1871.18  + (<p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1858.73  + (<p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1856.38  + (<p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1862.57  + (<p> </p> <p><em> </em></p>)
    • 1841.10  + (<p> </p> <p><strong> </strong></p>)
    • 1086.1  + (<p> </p> <p><strong&g … <p> </p></br><p><strong>Note:</strong> We need to confirm whether the Domesday Book actually uses the term "bittle-battle," "stool ball," or what. We also should try to ascertain views of professional scholars on the interpretations of the Book. Martin Hoerchner advises that the British Public Records Office may, at some point, make parts of the Domesday Book available online.</p></br><p>I've not found bittle-battle in the Domesday book [ba]</p>.</p> <p>I've not found bittle-battle in the Domesday book [ba]</p>)
    • 1860.93  + (<p> </p> <p>Do we know i … <p> </p></br><p>Do we know if and when baseball's rules mandated these "battery alleys?"  Do we know when they were rescinded? (It is said that only Detroit and Arizona parks use then today.) </p></br><p>Are there other explanations for this practice in 1860?</p></br><p>Can someone retrieve Tom Shieber's original SABR-L posting?</p></br><p>Can we assume/guess that the 1860 <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Clipper</span> piece was written by Henry Chadwick?</p></br><p> </p>derline;">Clipper</span> piece was written by Henry Chadwick?</p> <p> </p>)
    • Long Ball (US Batting Game)  + (<p> </p> <p>Do we know know if this and other fungo style batting games were known elsewhere in the US?  </p>)
    • Sun and Planet  + (<p> </p> <p>Do we know of other accounts of "Sun and Planet?"  A quick internet search in 2021 did not find the game.</p> <p>Do  we know much about indoor play of stool ball??  About stool-ball versions for youths?</p>)
    • 1860.61  + (<p> </p> <p>How does this game relate to entry [[1860.9]] above?</p>)
    • 1830s.33  + (<p> </p> <p>Is a balk ru … <p> </p></br><p>Is a balk rule -- or the  "stolen" base -- known in cricket or English Base Ball?   Or in any pre-1845 baserunning game?</p></br><p><span>Protoball welcomes further comment on the possible origin of the </span><span class="sought_text">balk</span><span> rule.</span></p></br><div> </div></br><div> </div>pan><span> rule.</span></p> <div> </div> <div> </div>)
    • 1862.104  + (<p> </p> <p>Is it clear … <p> </p></br><p>Is it clear why someone would create such a letterhead?</p></br><p>Can we find a fuller description of drive ball?</p></br><p>How does Protoball give a source for John's Tweet for later users who want to see it?</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>r later users who want to see it?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1835.19  + (<p> </p> <p>Is there any way we can zero in on the date and location of this pastime?</p> <p>Do we know what was meant by "Foot Ball" in the early 19th Century?</p> <p>Can we determine what "the Academy" was, and the ages of its students?</p>)
    • 1845.27  + (<p> </p> <p>Richard Hers … <p> </p></br><p>Richard Hershberger (email of 2/16/2023) has expressed doubt that the writer is from New York: "Do we know where the writer was from?  It would be very surprising if he were from New York."</p></br><p>Is it generally known whether SOT generally favored reports from certain regions in the 1840??</p></br><p> </p>d reports from certain regions in the 1840??</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1830c.39  + (<p> </p> <p>Should our dating at circa 1835 be modified?</p>)
    • 1858.49  + (<p> </p> <p>So -- was inter-tribal play was common then? </p>)
    • Russian Baseball  + (<p> </p> <p>Was this a team game or a rotational scrub/workup game?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1843.10  + (<p> </p> <p>[] It appear … <p> </p></br><p>[] It appears that the batsman is obliged to run to a second marker <em>and then return</em>; is that the way one-o-cat was commonly played?  (It does appear to be the rule for [[barn ball]].)  -- Protoball functionary, 2/2/2021.</p></br><p> </p>.)  -- Protoball functionary, 2/2/2021.</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1866.6  + (<p> </p> <p>[] are there … <p> </p></br><p>[] are there other reliable published sources of the evolution of table-top games, besides John's 2011 blog?</p></br><p>[] is anyone known to be attempting to reconstruct and play this game, or others?</p></br><p>[] can we determine what game events are given in the field of this apparatus?</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>the field of this apparatus?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1860.20  + (<p> Is the cartoon dated?  Is a location given?</p> <p> Is the content from source [3], from 1860, known?</p>)
    • 1852.10  + (<p> It might be informative to learn whether this novel has a particular setting (wicket is only known in selected areas) and/or where author Mansfield lived.</p> <p>Is it clear that the setting is the United States?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1806.4  + (<p> It would be helpful to know where Robbins lived in the Western Reserve. </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1859.73  + (<p> It would be interesting to know whether the Richmond group asked to see base ball played or it was recommended by New Yorkers.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1866.5  + (<p>() Any idea why this morsel hadn' … <p>() Any idea why this morsel hadn't turned up before 2014?</p></br><p>() By 1860, the modern game seems well-established in Chicago -- was it still unfamiliar elsewhere in IL as late as 1866?  </p></br><p>() The writer seems unfamiliar with the modern force-out rule; wasn't that introduced prior in base ball prior to 1866?</p></br><p>() Is it possible that the absence of a comment about the modern no-plugging rule means that local town ball already used a no-plugging rule?</p></br><p>() Many throwback articles mention that the new ball is harder than traditional balls.  Could local town ball have already employed hard balls?</p>n traditional balls.  Could local town ball have already employed hard balls?</p>)
    • 1860.91  + (<p>(A) The Protoball PrePro data bas … <p>(A) The Protoball PrePro data base in shows that 44 runs were scored in 8.5 innings in this July 4 game.  That's nearly three runs per half-inning.</p></br><p>(See http://protoball.org/Lone_Star_BBC_Club_of_Rochester_v_Live_Oak_Club_of_Rochester_on_4_July_1860)</p></br><p>So there were lots of baserunners that day.</p></br><p>But there were reportedly only about 2 catcher throws to bases in each half-inning. If bases were stolen routinely in this gloveless era, wouldn't more throws be expected?</p></br><p>(B) Were catcher throws to the bases not similarly recorded in downstate games?</p>lt;p>(B) Were catcher throws to the bases not similarly recorded in downstate games?</p>)
    • Puddox, or Puddock  + (<p>(Does South Africa have a Boston, … <p>(Does South Africa have a Boston, too? From Wikipedia, 2022: "Boston is a small town situated in the Mkhomazi and Elands River valley of KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa.")</p></br><p>Is it clear why this game is called a cricket/rounders hybrid, and not just a cricket offshoot?</p></br><p>Is this game known in Britain and America?</p></br><p> </p>t;Is this game known in Britain and America?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1848.20  + (<p>1848 was the year (see  <span … <p>1848 was the year (see  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Baseball in the Garden of Eden</span>, p. 35) that the Knickerbockers set out to re-consider their rules.  Did they address playing rules, or just operational ones? Do we know what changes emanated?</p>l ones? Do we know what changes emanated?</p>)
    • 1847.21  + (<p><span> </span></p& … <p><span> </span></p></br><p><span>[] Query from Peter Mancuso, 8/6/22 posting to 19CBB:</span></p></br><p><span>"Apparently the Knickerbockers in addition to playing on some reserved field in Hoboken's Elysian Fields also maintained a more steady presence there with the rental of a room, apparently for exclusive use of the club's members.   This taken a step further, begs the question of whether this was a unique relationship limited to the Knickerbockers, or did other clubs also have such an arrangement with the grounds' owners?"</span></p></br><p><span>[] Is it supposed that the Hoboken "room" served as a primitive clubhouse? </span></p>lt;p><span>[] Is it supposed that the Hoboken "room" served as a primitive clubhouse? </span></p>)
    • 1871.11  + (<p><span>Have charts like this appeared before? Have writers been referring to such averages in plumbing the relative merits of batsmen?</span></p> <p><span>Did each club send its data to interested news outlets?</span></p>)
    • 1840c.26  + (<p><strong>D</strong>oes the full <em>Daily Eagle </em>article say more about two old cat and other safe-haven games?</p> <p>Can we retrieve David's details in his posting?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1842c.9  + (<p><strong>I</strong>is Lester saying this is the first Haverford all-native team, first US all-native team, or what? </p> <p>Can we resolve the discrepancy between 1834 and 18"before 1842" as the time that the club formed?</p>)
    • 1863.9  + (<p><strong>Note: </strong>can we determine what Union Army units were deployed to Port Royal and the Sea Islands in early 1863?</p>)
    • 1859.6  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> Can we get text from the sourced citation [A] , and a source for the text citation [B] ? Was this one game or two? How can we find out more about the "Henson club" and the Unknowns?</p>)
    • 1858.40  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> Do we know the outcome? Was cricket attempting to counteract baseball's surge? If so, how? Why didn't it work?</p>)
    • 1500s.2  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> Is it possible to determine the approximate date of this event?</p>)
    • 1656.1  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> … <p><strong>Note:</strong> It would be useful to ascertain what Dutch phrase was translated as "playing ball," and whether the phrase denotes a certain type of game. The population of Manhattan at this time was about 800 [were there enough resident Englishmen to sustain cricket?], and the area was largely a fur trading post. Is it possible that the burghers imported this text from the Dutch homeland?</p></br><p>Can anyone out there google in Dutch?</p>h homeland?</p> <p>Can anyone out there google in Dutch?</p>)
    • 1854.8  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> Pycroft was first published in 1851. See item #[[1851.1]]. Was this material in the first edition?</p>)
    • 1863.58  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> can we locate an original source for the Dryden data?</p> <p>I can't find a mention of this in any online newspaper. A Carlton Dryden, Sgt. in the 10th Iowa, is the likeliest candidate for the "Sgt. Dryden" mentioned.</p>)
    • 1857.5  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> does "place the men on bases" refer to the fielders? Presumably in the MA game such positioning wasn't needed because there was plugging, and there were no force plays at the bases?</p>)
    • 1856.20  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> does this article imply that previously, base ball on the Common was relatively rare?</p>)
    • 1855.20  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> these results seems like deliberates exceptions to the 21-run rule; are there others?  Was the 21-run rule proving too short for practice games?</p>)
    • 1450.2  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> we need a fuller citation and the key text. Is it possible that this entry confuses D'Urfey's 1694 play about Don Quixote [see Entry #1694.1, below] with the Cervantes masterpiece?</p>)
    • 1850s.20  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> were "nips" foul tips?</p>)
    • 1820s.12  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> … <p><strong>Note:</strong> Dean Sullivan [7/29/2004] observes that Harold Seymour puts the year of play at Bangor at 1836, citing both pages 198 and 240 of <span>The Discovery of a Grandmother.</span> But Payne was born in 1812, and was not a "boy" in 1836, so this event needs further examination.</p></br><p>Also:This item needs to be reconciled with #[[1823c.4]], below.</p>823c.4]], below.</p>)
    • 1841.12  + (<p><strong>Note:</strong> Wicket was the main adult sport in Ohio?</p>)
    • 1750s.2  + (<p><strong>Note</strong>: Can we determine what region of NC is under discussion here? Text of the biography is unavailable via Google Books as of 11/15/2008. </p>)
    • 1830c.7  + (<p><strong>Notes:</strong> can we establish the age of King's father at King's birth?</p> <p>Can we determine where the two Kings might have played?</p>)
    • 1831.1  + (<p><strong>Notes:</strong&g … <p><strong>Notes:</strong> </p></br><p>Is it accurate to call this a "town ball" club? When was it formed?  Dean Sullivan dates it to 1837, while J. M. Ward [<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ward's Base Ball</span> Book, page 18] sets 1831 as the date of formation. The constitution was revised in 1837, but the Olympic Club merged with the Camden Town ball Club in 1833, and that event is regarded as the formation date of the Olympics. The story of the Olympics is covered in "Sporting Gossip," by "the Critic" in an unidentified photocopy found at the Giamatti Research Center at the HOF. What appears to be a continuation of this article is also at the HOF. It is "Evolution of Baseball from 1833 Up to the Present Time," by Horace S. Fogel, and appeared in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Philadelphia Daily Evening Telegraph</span>, March 22-23, 1908.</p></br><p><strong>2 </strong>Are we certain that the "firsts" listed in this entry predate the initial appearance of the indicated innovations in American cricket?</p></br><p> </p> entry predate the initial appearance of the indicated innovations in American cricket?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1830c.26  + (<p><strong>Query:</strong> do we know the nature of the ball games of "skip" and "hit or miss?"</p>)
    • 1816.4  + (<p><strong>Query:</strong> Does the game appear to uses bases?</p> <p>   <em>No.  Like most forms of longball, there are a home line and a goal line at opposite ends of the field.</em></p>)
    • 1857.23  + (<p><strong>Query:</strong> [1] "The old CT game?" Wasn't that wicket? </p>)
    • 1867.21  + (<p><strong>[A] </strong> … <p><strong>[A] </strong>Is "Pony Club" a common term for teen clubs?</p></br><div><span><span> - - from John Thorn, 9/22/20:  "The Clipper has citations for "pony team" from 1874 on, perhaps signifying junior team or just whippersnappers. Here, from Sept 8, 1888:"</span></span></div></br><div><span><span> </span></span></div></br><div><span><span><span>BOSTON, Sept 2 . —Coming home with a record of seven victories in eight games is a far different thing from doing so after having won four games out of twenty. Add to this the fact that three straight victories were gained over New York on their own heath and that by what Boston fans look upon as a<span> </span></span><span class="highlightcolor">pony team</span><span>, and it is little wonder that the warmest and most enthusiastic kind of a welcome was bestowed upon the Boston team on Thursday last and that cheer after cheer greeted the appearance of the nine and each man as he stepped to the bat.<span> </span></span></span></span></div></br><p>---</p></br><p><strong>[B] </strong>Wasn't $1500 a tidy sum in 1867?</p></br><p> -- from John Thorn, 9/22/20: "$1500 was a hefty prize: $<strong>27,783.73 </strong>in 2019 dollars (via Consumer Price Index adjustment)."</p>ng>[B] </strong>Wasn't $1500 a tidy sum in 1867?</p> <p> -- from John Thorn, 9/22/20: "$1500 was a hefty prize: $<strong>27,783.73 </strong>in 2019 dollars (via Consumer Price Index adjustment)."</p>)
    • Eagle Club of New York v St. Nicholas Club of New York on 9 August 1859  + (<p>==</p>)
    • 1844.13  + (<p>Adult play is suggested by choice of late-day meeting.</p>)
    • 1797.1  + (<p>Altherr [p. 27] puts this date "at the turn of the century."  Do we know where the 1797 date originated?  Was Webster at Dartmouth then?</p>)
    • 1806.2  + (<p>Altherr reports that "Gilbert des … <p>Altherr reports that "Gilbert described some sort of ball play as common on the village commons." (See Block, Ibid., page 241). Can we determine Gilbert's usage in calling such play common? Does the clue that the ball was "worsted" (woolen, or made of wool cloth?) add a helpful clue as to the nature of the game played?</p>ue as to the nature of the game played?</p>)
    • 1786.1  + (<p>An article has appeared about Smi … <p>An article has appeared about Smith's journal. See Woodward, Ruth, "Journal at Nassau Hall," PULC 46 (1985), pp. 269-291, and PULC 47 (1986), pp 48-70. <strong>Note:</strong> Does this article materially supplement our appreciation of Smith's brief comment?</p>ly supplement our appreciation of Smith's brief comment?</p>)
    • 1800c.12  + (<p>Any clues as to the location of recalled games?</p>)
    • 1555c.1  + (<p>Any idea what "rene base" might have meant in those days?  Could it refer to a much older form of the team-tag game later known as prisoner's base? </p>)
    • 1800c.11  + (<p>Any idea what 'cat and ball' might have been?  In February 2021 Protoball does not find that phrase.  It is conceivable that the author misheard his father's use of "bat and ball" as "cat and ball." </p>)
    • 1872.2  + (<p>Any idea who might have written this little barb at the NYT?  Was it widely quoted in the US?</p>)
    • 1871.1  + (<p>Are Carthage and Dallas and Ft. Madison nearby towns?</p>)
    • Cat (Kat)  + (<p>Are Twentieth Century forms of Old-Cat know in New York City or other US locations? </p>)
    • 1823.6  + (<p>Are any reports available on the rules of the game as played at Round Hill?</p> <p>Beck didn't give the game a particular name?</p>)
    • 1867.22  + (<p>Are earlier cases known?</p> <p>Is it known whether these press accommodations were normally granted by a ball club, like the Eureka, or by the owner of the ballfield?</p>)
    • 1867.26  + (<p>Are other baserunning games known that were to be played on horseback?</p> <p>Do we know what "Comic Monthlies" were?</p> <p> </p>)
    • Scrub  + (<p>Are other forms of Scrub remembered.  Have rules been published authoritatively somewhere?</p>)
    • 1868.8  + (<p>Are other post-War throwback games seen in the area?</p>)
    • 1000c.1  + (<p>Are the Sagas taken as accurate by scholars of Viking exploits?</p> <p>When did the three siblings live in Vinland?  Were the houses built in what is now US or Canada?</p> <p>When were the Sagas written? </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1835c.11  + (<p>Are the players children?</p>)
    • 1835c.18  + (<p>Are there any contemporary references to "base ball" in CT before this?</p>)
    • Wiffle ball  + (<p>Are there documented forms of wiffle ball that use live baserunners?</p> <p>Has anyone done a directory of known variant games played with a wiffle ball? </p>)
    • 1859.41  + (<p>Are there earlier claims for the first Knicks-style game in Canada? Item #1856.18 above was likely a predecessor game, right?</p>)
    • 1818.4  + (<p>Are there other sightings of this 1818 cricket account?</p>)
    • 1830s.12  + (<p>Are these Welch's own recollections? </p>)
    • 1862c.56  + (<p>Are these the only two other known collection of entry fees in the middle 1860s?</p>)
    • 1824.6  + (<p>Are we sure we haven't got Holmes … <p>Are we sure we haven't got Holmes <em>pere et fils</em> confused?  OWH Sr (1809-1894), the poet and novelist, attended Andover and Harvard in the 1820s.  OWH Jr (1841-1935) attended Harvard in the 1850s, served in the Civil War and became a justice of the US Supreme Court.--WCH</p></br><p> </p>US Supreme Court.--WCH</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1867.28  + (<p>As a set, do these rules resemble … <p>As a set, do these rules resemble contemporary rules for cricket in the 1860s?  Do they align with cricket rules in 1800?</p></br><p>Do we know what the ball was like?  Presumably, tennis balls were hand-wound string in this era, and the ball may have resembled cricket balls and base balls for the era.  </p> balls and base balls for the era.  </p>)
    • 1872.4  + (<p>Asking, 3/18/2022:</p> < … <p>Asking, 3/18/2022:</p></br><p>Was it common for pro league clubs to play amateur clubs?  (see BA response, above)</p></br><p>Did the game come off?</p></br><p>Asking, 3/19/2022:</p></br><p>Was the Boston club known as the Red Stockings in 1872?</p></br><p> </p></br><p>Was the proposed game to amount to a pre-season warmup for the Boston pros?</p> <p> </p> <p>Was the proposed game to amount to a pre-season warmup for the Boston pros?</p>)
    • 1666.1  + (<p>Bunyan was born in 1628.  Are we sure that this event can be dated 1666, when he was nearly forty years old?</p>)
    • 1844.16  + (<p>Can anyone make a guess at the me … <p>Can anyone make a guess at the meaning of "hurra for Connecticut" for a game played in the far north of NYS?  Was the area known for its emigres from CT?</p></br><p>Answer: I believe the reference is to the gains the Whig Party made in the recent CT elections. Just as the local Whigs beat the Loco-Focos (Democrats) at base ball, the CT Whigs beat the Democrats at the polls. [ba]</p> the CT Whigs beat the Democrats at the polls. [ba]</p>)
    • 370c.1  + (<p>Can historians identify the "game of ball" that Augustine might have played in the fourth Century? Are the translations to "game of ball," "games," and "sport" still deemed accurate?</p>)
    • BC700c.1  + (<p>Can other readers throw any more light on this ancient (and, to Protoball, handsomely <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>obscure</em></span>) text?</p>)
    • 1854.22  + (<p>Can readers provide insight as to what game was played on Boston Common in 1854, whether there was a post Civil War league in this area, and otherwise help us interpret this account? </p>)
    • 1828.17  + (<p>Can someone help us obtain the text of this newspaper piece?</p>)
    • Block:London Dictionary Defines "Baseball" in 1768  + (<p>Can the Shakespeare citation be l … <p>Can the Shakespeare citation be located?</p></br><p>Yes. The cite is to Cymbeline, Act 5, Scene 3. [ba] </p></br><div id="copyPaste"><span id="line-5.3.22" title="5.3.22">"He with two striplings—lads more like to run</span><br/><span id="line-5.3.23" title="5.3.23">The country base than to commit such slaughter,"</span></div></br><div class="post-inner section-inner"> </div>mmit such slaughter,"</span></div> <div class="post-inner section-inner"> </div>)
    • 1538.1  + (<p>Can the actual text be retrieved?</p>)
    • 1758.1  + (<p>Can the date of the diary entry be traced?</p>)
    • 1860.1  + (<p>Can this estimate be reconciled with #1859.40 above? The number of clubs doubled in one year?</p>)
    • 1870.4  + (<p>Can we add any indication of why the club disbanded?</p>)
    • 1867.5  + (<p>Can we add something about the first game, and the sites of each game?  A bit more about interim game scoring?</p>)
    • BC1500c.1  + (<p>Can we add specific sources for these points?</p>)
    • 1840s.45  + (<p>Can we assess the accuracy of his … <p>Can we assess the accuracy of his summary?  Is wicket known to be played in   the vicinity or in other colleges?</p></br><p>Cutting p. 113 says the "wicket ground was in the rear of the chapel" thus confirming that wicket was played on the campus. [ba]</p>hat wicket was played on the campus. [ba]</p>)
    • 1828.20  + (<p>Can we assume that 'pedal members' pertained to the feet, and that it was thus foot ball, and not the two base-running games that caused the bruises? </p>)
    • 1815c.2  + (<p>Can we be certain that this was a base-running game?  Can we rule out that the game was a vigorous 1800's form of handball?</p>)
    • 1836.5  + (<p>Can we clarify what game Forbes p … <p>Can we clarify what game Forbes played (rounders? round ball?). </p></br><p> Reader Reply: I would suggest that this is reasonably persuasive evidence that Brits and Yanks were playing effectively the same game, under whatever name. No mention of rules disputes or confusion arises; and one gets the distinct impression, in parallel with ca. 1830s rules descriptions, that both national contingents set to without fuss and that there was little if any difference between English "rounders" and American "X-ball." --WCHicklin (date unspecified).</p>ican "X-ball." --WCHicklin (date unspecified).</p>)
    • 1700.1  + (<p>Can we confirm this citation, and that it refers to cricket? Do we know of any earlier public announcements of safe-haven games?</p>)
    • 1807.3  + (<p>Can we determine from biographica … <p>Can we determine from biographical information where and when Barry attended college? Is it significant that Barry reprises the phrase "urge the flying ball," seen as a cricket phrase in Pope [see #1730.1] and Gray [#1747.1]? Did Barry live/play in MD?</p>d Gray [#1747.1]? Did Barry live/play in MD?</p>)
    • 1802c.1  + (<p>Can we determine the SC location recalled, why Tom dated it as circa 1802, or what form the ballplaying took? </p>)
    • 1850s.3  + (<p>Can we determine the year the club formed?  Was it a junior clcub?</p>)
    • 1866.11  + (<p>Can we determine what original sources Zingg and Medeiros used?</p>)
    • 1660c.3  + (<p>Can we determine whether 17th-cen … <p>Can we determine whether 17th-century balslaen was a batting/baserunning game, or was it in the field-hockey, or handball, or golf, families of games?</p></br><p>Was "New Netherland" confined to the Manhattan area or did it extend northward into the Hudson River valley?</p></br><p>Is "circa 1660" a defensible approximation for this find?</p></br><p>Was balslaen played in Holland?  Could it have influenced English ballplaying, including cricket and English base ball??</p></br><p> </p>nglish ballplaying, including cricket and English base ball??</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1858.67  + (<p>Can we determine whether this game was played by the emerging Massachusetts rules or traditional local custom?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1787.1  + (<p>Can we determine why this "shiny" inference was made?</p>)
    • Clipping:Traditional Easter Ballplaying . . . Where Fast Day Play was Born?  + (<p>Can we discover more details on the tradition of mature women being central to early Easter ballplaying festivities?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • Aleut Baseball  + (<p>Can we discover the geographic range of play of this game?  Do local variations exist in Alaska?</p>)
    • 1858.10  + (<p>Can we either verify or disprove the accuracy of this recollection?</p>)
    • 1630c.3  + (<p>Can we find and inspect the 1935 Boas edition of the diary?</p>)
    • 1858.58  + (<p>Can we find any clear basis for t … <p>Can we find any clear basis for the report of 1856 establishment of modern base ball? </p></br><p>[ba] Yes. </p></br><p>Andreas' Chicago, p. 613, says that the Union Base Ball Club organized Aug. 12, 1856.</p></br><p>Andreas' book claim is obviously referencing a notice in the <em>Chicago Daily Democratic Press</em>, Aug. 12, 1856, p. 3, col. 1:</p></br><p>"Union Base Ball Club.--A company of young men will meet this (Tuesday) evening at the Hope Hose Carriage House at 8 o'clock, to organize under the above name and elect officers for the year.</p></br><p>All active young men who need exercise and good sport, are invited to be present."</p>> <p>All active young men who need exercise and good sport, are invited to be present."</p>)
    • 1845.16  + (<p>Can we find more hints about the rules that may have governed this match game?</p>)
    • 1850s.1  + (<p>Can we find out details on the content of the Wiggins monograph>?</p>)
    • 1805.8  + (<p>Can we find out more about the lo … <p>Can we find out more about the long, low wicket reportedly used in earliest forms of English cricket, and when the higher and narrower  wicket evolved there?</p></br><p>Can we find out more about Silliman's life and his age when touring England? </p>iman's life and his age when touring England? </p>)
    • 1859.3  + (<p>Can we find out more about this game?</p>)
    • 1860.29  + (<p>Can we find that <span>Clipper</span> report? Does the use of two backstops imply the continued application of tick-and-catch rules?</p>)
    • 1829.5  + (<p>Can we find the source of this 1829 account?</p>)
    • 1828.2  + (<p>Can we find the source, and some text, for this?</p>)
    • 1858.31  + (<p>Can we find the <em>Mercury</em> story and/or coverage in Bristol and Waterbury papers? Add page reference.</p>)
    • 1255.1  + (<p>Can we further specify the drawing and its creator?</p> <p>Can we learn how baseball historians and others interpret this artwork?</p> <p>Do we know why this drawing is dated to 1255?</p>)
    • 1820s.18  + (<p>Can we get better data on Clark's age while at the Academy?</p>)
    • 1866.14  + (<p>Can we guess why this innovation came to Cincinnati and not, say, to New York?</p>)
    • 1853c.1  + (<p>Can we identify the seminary with the rival club, and determine whether it has any record of early ballplaying?</p>)
    • 1805.2  + (<p>Can we imagine what "other machin … <p>Can we imagine what "other machines" were employed to propel balls in the streets of Portland?  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Note:</span>  Additional origins researchers' comments on the meaning or "other machines" is shown in <strong>Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>rong>Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>)
    • 1750s.3  + (<p>Can we interpret the baserunning rule allowing "a pace or jump to the base [the runner] was striving to reach?"  Plugging didn't count if the runner was close to the next base," perhaps?</p>)
    • Touch-ball  + (<p>Can we learn more about touch-ball's rules and history?</p>)
    • 1860.30  + (<p>Can we locate and examine this 1860 article? A: It is apparently not online.</p>)
    • 1779.2  + (<p>Can we locate and inspect Shute's reference to bandy wicket?</p>)
    • 1850s.4  + (<p>Can we now determine when the these clubs formed, and details on their play and durability?  Do we see ethnic clubs in other cities in the 1850s?</p>)
    • 1830c.35  + (<p>Can we obtain a more precise estimate of when this card was made?</p> <p>Can we determine whether the card was distributed in America or in England? </p>)
    • 1850s.13  + (<p>Can we obtain original sources?</p>)
    • 1661.1  + (<p>Can we really assume that Galileo was familiar with 1600s stoolball and tennis?  Is it possible that this excerpt reflects commentary by Salusbury, rather that strict translation from the Italian source?</p>)
    • 1818c.5  + (<p>Can we reconcile the conflicts in the two attributions?</p>)
    • 1855.35  + (<p>Can we specify any of the rules in older game played earlier in 1855 by the Excelsiors?</p>)
    • 1857.46  + (<p>Can we speculate that the game was played by adults?</p>)
    • 1851.7  + (<p>Can we surmise that by using the term "old fashioned game," the newspaper is distinguishing it from the Knickerbocker game?</p>)
    • 1844.15  + (<p>Comment is welcome on the interpr … <p>Comment is welcome on the interpretation of the three cryptic rule descriptions for this 12-player game.</p></br><p>[1] "One knock and catch out?"  Could this be taken to define one-out-side-out innings?  Or, that ticks counted as outs if caught behind the batter? Or something else?  <strong>Note: </strong>Richard Hershberger points out that 1OSO rules could not have likely allowed the scoring of 81 runs with no outs.  That would imply that the clubs may have used the All-Out-Side-Out rule.</p></br><p>[2] "Each one out for himself?"  Could batters continue in the batting order until retired?  That too, then, might imply the use of an All-Out-Side-Out inning format</p></br><p>[3] "Each side one inns?"  So the Whigs made those 81 "counts" in a single inning? </p></br><p>Richard Hershberger also surmises that the first two rules are meant to be conjoined: "One knock and catch out, each one out for himself."  That would declare that [a] caught fly balls (and, possibly, caught one-bound hits?) were to be considered outs, and that [b] batters who are put out would lose their place in the batting order that inning; but were there any known variants games for which such catches would <strong>not</strong> be considered outs?   </p>rong> be considered outs?   </p>)
    • 1847.17  + (<p>Comments, research tips, speculation welcomed.</p> <p>And . . . what is the game called "gould?"</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1847.11  + (<p>Could gentle readers please enlig … <p>Could gentle readers please enlighten Protoball on the nature and fate of "hook-em-snivy," in AL or the South or elsewhere? I asked Mister Google about the word, and he rather less helpfully and rather more cryptically than usual, said this: "My Quaker grandmother, born in Maryland in 1823, used [the word] in my hearing when she was about seventy years old. She said that it was a barbarism in use among common people and that we must forget it.</p>ng common people and that we must forget it.</p>)
    • 1856.39  + (<p>Could some Illinoian help us better understand the early importance of town  ball in that fine state? </p>)
    • 1853.3  + (<p>Could this be an American printing of an English volume?</p>)
    • 1862.102  + (<p>Curious if anyone knows of intercity games between black clubs prior to September 1862 and any thoughts on what claim this game might have as an earliest known. [John Zinn]</p>)
    • Alert Club of Brooklyn v Clayton Club of Hoboken on 2 January 1861  + (<p>Date ok?</p>)
    • 1871.20  + (<p>David Block, et al: Could Chadwick have believed that Two-Old-Cat was also the parent of British Rounders? The term was known over there before rounders was, no?</p> <p>Page and pub site of the 1871 Manual?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1844.18  + (<p>Did "It is a free exercise" mean roughly what it means today? </p>)
    • 1845c.24  + (<p>Did Crapo leave behind autobiographical accounts that we could check for youthful ballplaying recollections?  Do we find contemporary usage of the term "rounders" in this area?</p>)
    • 1859.67  + (<p>Did DeBost actually stay retired at this point?</p>)
    • 1855c.1  + (<p>Did King grow up in MA?  Do we know why this ref. is dated c1855?</p>)
    • 1825c.1  + (<p>Did Weed advert to 3-out half innings, or did Adams?</p>)
    • BC750.1  + (<p>Did any of the Greek games share attributes with modern baseball?</p>)
    • BC2000 to 1000ADc.1  + (<p>Did any of these games feature base-running?  Batting?  Has the last 65 years of scholarship added detail to this sweeping claim?</p>)
    • 1871.12  + (<p>Did the March 17 date hold up?  Was it held in NYC?</p> <p>Was St. Patrick's Day an extra special day in the 1870s?</p> <p>Was Chadwick's departure a matter of controversy?  Why?</p>)
    • 1871.17  + (<p>Did the Mutuals themselves claim the best 1870 record, or just the NABBP Championship, or what?</p>)
    • Potomac Club of Washington v National Club of Washington on 5 May 1860  + (<p>Did the Potomac score 35 or 37 runs?</p>)
    • Rough and Ready Ball Club v Aristonican Ball Club on 29 October 1859undefined  + (<p>Did the Rough and Ready club also play a form of base ball?  [As of March 2022, Protoball lists 9 refs of Rough and Ready clubs in MA, mostly from South Walpole; none from Brookline.  We have no other refs to a Aristonican club.]</p>)
    • Cricket -- US  + (<p>Did the league fold after this one year?</p> <p>Is there some source in which such US and/or Canadian cricket leagues are displayed?</p>)
    • 1868.1  + (<p>Did this club form at a ladies' school, a secondary school, a finishing school?  What was the age of the players?</p>)
    • Poisoned Ball  + (<p>Did this game employ baserunning?</p>)
    • BC 2,000,000c.1  + (<p>Do British researchers agree that cricket-style bowling would be less effective as a hunting technique?</p> <p>Do published comments on this paper add insights?</p>)
    • BC2500c.1  + (<p>Do contemporary archeologists and … <p>Do contemporary archeologists and/or historians agree that such items were evidence of play? Have they since found older artifacts that may be associated with cat-like games, or ball games? Can they suggest any rules for such games... Batting? Running? Fielding? Team Play?</p>es... Batting? Running? Fielding? Team Play?</p>)
    • 1747.1  + (<p>Do modern scholars agree with the 1747 publication date?</p> <p>Is it fair to assume that Gray is evoking student play at Eton in this ode?</p>)
    • 1850c.44  + (<p>Do these estimates jibe with current assessments?</p>)
    • Richmond Club of Richmond  + (<p>Do we have a date for the foundation of this club?</p>)
    • 1856.35  + (<p>Do we have any additional information on where in Brooklyn Pearce and his friends were playing the old-fashioned game in the 1850s?</p>)
    • 1841.15  + (<p>Do we have any other references to wicket in LA before 1844?  Could the <em>Picayune </em>simply have copied an article from a distant newspaper.</p> <p>Can we learn how broadly barn ball was played n the US?  In other nations?</p>)
    • 1810s.9  + (<p>Do we have any way to tell the ages of the participants in the recalled game?</p>)
    • 1854.16  + (<p>Do we have evidence that the Eagle preferred, at least initially, a variant playing field? Or did the Eagle Club just assign this diagramming exercise to some Harvard person?</p> <p>Is this image published in some recent source?</p>)
    • 1838.9  + (<p>Do we know a location for this report?</p>)
    • 1872.8  + (<p>Do we know how Cleveland media covered this sad event?</p>)
    • 1787.2  + (<p>Do we know how old the brothers w … <p>Do we know how old the brothers were in 1787?  Do we know where they might have become with wicket?</p></br><p>Three times of what?  Is wicket known to have 3-out-side-out half-innings?  I couldn't mean three strikes, right?  Maybe three non-forward hits?</p></br><p> </p>hree non-forward hits?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1867.6  + (<p>Do we know if Hits were defined in about the way we would define them today?</p>)
    • 1872.1  + (<p>Do we know if there are interesting variants in other clubs' rules? </p>)
    • 1855.37  + (<p>Do we know if this plan was carried out?  How was the victor decided among participating towns?</p>)
    • Eagle Base Ball Club of New York  + (<p>Do we know more about Eagle games after 1868? Our game data stops then. </p>)
    • 1872.16  + (<p>Do we know more about Thomas "Tim" Hall's role in early Boston base ball?</p> <p>Do we know why the named English gentlemen had come to the US beforehand?</p> <p>Do we know the names of Boston and Philly players planning to go?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1870.14  + (<p>Do we know more about the fate of the Union Grounds and Boston sports?</p>)
    • Washington Game  + (<p>Do we know more about this rule variant?</p> <p>Was it deployed more broadly by AA players?  By others?</p>)
    • 1846.21  + (<p>Do we know of other field days like this one in this early period?  Can we guess who organized this one, and why?  Do we know if the Knicks traveled to Brooklyn that day?</p>)
    • -2600c.1  + (<p>Do we know of speculation -- or evidence -- as to how this piggy-back ball game might have been played, and how it could have been made attractive to it players?</p>)
    • Zephyrs of East Lexington  + (<p>Do we know the Kelleher source?</p>)
    • 1862.58  + (<p>Do we know the location of these … <p>Do we know the location of these Regiments in May 1862?  Who was Captain Cary writing to?</p></br><p>The 2nd MA and 3rd WI were at/near Harrisonburg, VA on May 3, 1862. This entry is based on the letters of Cary to his wife, at the MA Historical Society. [ba]</p>ary to his wife, at the MA Historical Society. [ba]</p>)
    • In Nashua in April 1847  + (<p>Do we know what "long ball" was?</p>)
    • 824.1  + (<p>Do we know what Chinese "ballplaying" was like in the ninth century?</p>)
    • 1860.90  + (<p>Do we know what is meant by the n … <p>Do we know what is meant by the note that Creighton "batted out of the pitcher's position?"</p></br><p>(In reply, John Thorn (email, 10/4/16) writes, "For a while batting orders were constructed by numbered position, so that the lineup would be pitcher, catcher, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF. But I speculate. . . .")</p>er, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF. But I speculate. . . .")</p>)
    • 1854.1  + (<p>Do we know what pitching distances were used in games played before 1854?</p> <p>Is it seen as merely coincidental that the specifications of a base ball were so close to those of a cricket ball?</p>)
    • 1855.33  + (<p>Do we know what  "makes the most innings" means in the newspaper account?</p>)
    • 1860.94  + (<p>Do we know whether and how Chadwick referenced foul territory prior to 1860?</p> <p>Do we know of other prior usage of "foul lines"??</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1857.29  + (<p>Do we now know any more about this event?  Was it an intramural game?  Was a six-player side common in Philadelphia town ball?  Was a gold ring a typical prize for winning?</p>)
    • Olympic Club of Philadelphia  + (<p>Do we really only have three games for this historic clubs, which endured until 1887?</p>)
    • 1864.6  + (<p>Do we the role of the 30th in February 1864?  </p> <p>Are there any indications as to whether NY or MA or other game rules were employed?</p>)
    • Detroit Base Ball Club of Detroit  + (<p>Do we think the club formed in April 1865 was the same group that formed in the 1850s?  Given the intervening war, could it have been a separate undertaking?</p>)
    • 1850.61  + (<p>Do you have other interpretations of the game as depicted? </p> <p>Could that object out near the tree be a baserunning post . . . or a even a wicket?</p>)
    • 1845.10  + (<p>Does Block link the two descriptions, or does the German text cite the French game</p>)
    • 1841.11  + (<p>Does Jamieson describe other ballgames?</p>)
    • 1833.3  + (<p>Does Maxwell show evidence for his interpretation of cricket's progenitors?</p>)
    • 1860s.86  + (<p>Does Smith reveal his source for the pre-1970 box score?</p>)
    • BC2000c.1  + (<p>Does recent scholarship agree that these were balls, were used in sport, and date to 2000 BC? Is there further evidence about their role in Egyptian life?</p>)
    • 1824.7  + (<p>Does the context of this excerpt reveal anything further about the region, circumstance, or participants in this ball-playing?</p>)
    • 1820.29  + (<p>Does the context of this passage … <p>Does the context of this passage clearly imply that girls played base ball? </p></br><p>Is the author suggesting that base ball was considered an "old-fashioned" pastime in 1821?</p></br><p>Where was <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Early Education</span> published?</p>ext-decoration: underline;">Early Education</span> published?</p>)
    • 1858.29  + (<p>Does the final sentence imply that earlier games of ball had recently been played?</p>)
    • 1832c.2  + (<p>Does the lineage from these two c … <p>Does the lineage from these two clubs to the Knickerbockers and Gothams (but not Magnolias) stem from common membership rolls?</p></br><p>Can we find additional sources on the two 1832 clubs? Do we have any notion of Wood's possible sources?</p></br><p> </p>ave any notion of Wood's possible sources?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1809.1  + (<p>Does the sum of 80 guineas as the game's stakes imply anything about the players?</p>)
    • 1826.3  + (<p>Does this item suggest that 'base … <p>Does this item suggest that 'base ball' was a term used in Philadelphia in 1826?  In Boston in 1826?</p></br><p>Was the Gymnasium actually established in Boston?  Was ballplaying among its activities?  <span>Was gymnastics seen in the Commons in the early years?</span></p></br><p><span>Isn't this ref a very early appearance of the term foot ball in the US?  Can we learn what rules may have applied?</span> </p>in the US?  Can we learn what rules may have applied?</span> </p>)
    • 1827.4  + (<p>Does this manual cover other safe-haven games?  Other batting games?  Other games with plugging?</p>)
    • City Club of Knoxville  + (<p>Duplicate listing for the Knoxville club? Probably not, as the Knoxville Free Press, Sept. 4, 1867 mentions the Holston, Knoxville, City, Emmet and University BBCs. [ba]</p>)
    • 1861.27  + (<p>Duplicate of 1861.16?</p>)
    • 1861.26  + (<p>Duplicate of 1861.18?</p>)
    • 1861.30  + (<p>Duplicate of 1861.20?</p>)
    • Bachelor Club of Newark  + (<p>Duplicate with Bachelors Club of Newark?</p>)
    • 1845.31  + (<p>Extra credit for sleuthing the authorship of this item!</p>)
    • 1858.68  + (<p>Feel free to throw more light on what Thoreau is saying here. </p> <p><span style="font-family: Arial Black;">          </span></p>)
    • Hittera Ball  + (<p>From the description ["cup?" "stick?"] it is difficult to picture how this game was played.</p> <p>Where is Sheffield/Derbyshire?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1725c.1  + (<p>Further comment on this entry is … <p>Further comment on this entry is welcome, especially from wicket devotees; after all, this may be the initial U.S. wicket citation in existence (assuming that #[[1700c.2]]  cannot be documented, and that #[[1704.1]] above is not ever confirmed as wicket).</p>above is not ever confirmed as wicket).</p>)
    • 1830c.30  + (<p>Further commentary on the site and date of this remembered game are welcome.</p> <p>Was the Ashtabula area well-settled by 1830?</p>)
    • Knattleikar or Knattleikr  + (<p>Further data on the game are welcome.</p> <p>Is a game like this still practiced in Iceland?</p> <p>What dats are associated with the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Younger Edda</span>?</p>)
    • 1860.48  + (<p>Further insight is welcome from readers.</p>)
    • 1586c.1  + (<p>Further interpretations are welcome as to Sydney's meaning.</p>)
    • 1853.14  + (<p>Has someone already analyzed the relative role of assorted papers in the first baseball boom?</p>)
    • BC3000c.1  + (<p>Has this game been observed in other North African communities since 1937?  Are alternative explanations of Om El Mahag now offered, including a much more recent importation from cricket-playing and baseball-playing areas?   </p>)
    • 1865.8  + (<p>Have any earlier instances of integrated adult clubs arisen in recent years?</p>)
    • Hunyou-Shinyou  + (<p>Have broader searches for this game been tried?</p>)
    • -2500.2  + (<p>Have other scholars commented on Mr. George's ballplaying interpretation of the Gilgamesh epic? </p>)
    • 1540c.2  + (<p>Have scholars indicated the likely nature of "palm play?"  Could it have involved the batting of a ball with the palm?</p>)
    • 1821.5  + (<p>Have we found any further indications that 1820-era establishments may have served to host regular base ball clubs?</p>)
    • 1872.17  + (<p>His anyone systematically tracked … <p>His anyone systematically tracked player salaries in he early pro years?</p></br><p>A: Baseball reference lists 13 players as being on the Athletics in 1871. Three of these played only 1 game. The standard roster of 10 players were paid an average of $1,500 apiece, per the article saying the players were paid $15,000 and change. [ba]</p>le saying the players were paid $15,000 and change. [ba]</p>)
    • 1805.6  + (<p>How about the evidence in [[1797.5]]?</p>)
    • 1858.2  + (<p>If this game did not give us the first called strikes, when did such actually appear?</p>)
    • 1868.7  + (<p>In July 1868, Wright's "ground" was where?</p> <p>Has someone recorded 'longest baseball throws' records somewhere?</p> <p>And what else do we know about Johnny Hatfield?</p>)
    • 1781.1  + (<p>Is "alley" used by cricketers in the same way?</p>)
    • 1844.6  + (<p>Is "bass" a ballgame, or was prisoner's base sometimes thought of as a "field game?"</p>)
    • 1393.1  + (<p>Is "stumpball" actually a known game?  Have we done adequate searches for this name?</p>)
    • 1778.4  + (<p>Is Ewing's diary available now? Yes, on archive.org. See https://archive.org/details/georgeewinggentl00ewin/mode/2up?q=george+ewing+diary</p>)
    • 1867.16  + (<p>Is Protoball correct in thinking … <p>Is Protoball correct in thinking that the unnamed American's quote had appeared in an earlier "Yankee Pastimes" column in the <em>London</em> <em>Spectator</em>, and was then cited in the Sydney (Australia?) <em>Morning Herald </em>of April 11, 1867? <em> </em>   </p>Herald </em>of April 11, 1867? <em> </em>   </p>)
    • 1849.3  + (<p>Is Tom saying that there were no prior safe-haven ball games [cricket, town ball, wicket] out west, or just that the NY game hadn't arrived until 1849?</p>)
    • 1858c.57  + (<p>Is c1858 a creditable guess as to when lads in the class of '62 might have begun playing at Exeter? Is a full view available online? Phillips Exeter is in Exeter NH, about 50 miles N of Boston and about 12 miles SW of Portsmouth.</p>)
    • 1867.27  + (<p>Is earlier use of season tickets known?</p>)
    • San Francisco Base Ball Club v Red Rover Base Ball Club of San Francisco on 22 February 1860  + (<p>Is it clear from contemporary accounts that New York rules governed this game?</p>)
    • 1732.1  + (<p>Is it fair to assume that the gentleman used a bat to propel the ball? </p> <p>Are such feats known in England?</p> <p>Is a 160-foot weather-vane plausible?  That's well over 10 stories, no?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1854.23  + (<p>Is it fair to suppose that the <em>Register</em> was published in Albany NY? There was a paper there of that name in the 1850s (per internet search of 11/2/2020).</p> <p>Is wicket play by little boys known?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1856.18  + (<p>Is it likely that the New York ru … <p>Is it likely that the New York rules would have produced this much scoring per inning . . . or was it set up as a two-inning contest? Can we confirm/disconfirm that this was the first Canadian game in some sense [keeping in mind that Beachville game report at #1838.4 above]?</p>at Beachville game report at #1838.4 above]?</p>)
    • 1872.10  + (<p>Is it noteworthy that only one walk occurred in this 12-8 game?</p>)
    • 1840s.46  + (<p>Is it obvious why a balk is in so … <p>Is it obvious why a balk is in some way considered comparable to a "flagrant outrage?"</p></br><p>Was the balk known in earlier baserunning games in England, or elsewhere?</p></br><p>Do histories of cricket shed further light on the origin, nature, or rationale for, automatic batter-runner advances despite catches of balls hit when a "no ball" has been called?</p></br><p>Do we often see early rule variants for players of different ages?</p>> <p>Do we often see early rule variants for players of different ages?</p>)
    • 1860.6  + (<p>Is it possible that English rounders itself had evolved from English base ball as played in the eighteenth century?</p>)
    • 1863.1  + (<p>Is it possible that a collection of trophy balls, at the Hall of Fame or elsewhere, would provide more evidence of the prevalence of base ball in the Civil War?</p>)
    • 1837.13  + (<p>Is it possible that this entry re … <p>Is it possible that this entry reflects the 1796 report by Gutsmuths that English and German forms of base-ball coexisted?  Protoball wonders if the 1837 book mistakenly dropped a word following the term "mit" (with).  Gutsmuths called English game "ball "mit freystaten." The Protoball entry for Gutsmuths is at [[1796.1]]</p></br><p>Is there a way to locate the German-to-English version of this 1837 book?</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>of this 1837 book?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1853.4  + (<p>Is it possible that this is a fungo-style game?  Is it possible that may other "plaing ball" references denote fungo games? </p> <p>Do we know of any other fungo games in which more than a single bat is used?</p>)
    • 1550c.2  + (<p>Is it possible that this source is the basis for the claim (see  [[1550c.1]]) that the term cricket ("crekett") is not known prior to 1550?</p>)
    • Chippawa v Penetergushene in Chippawa on 29 May 1815  + (<p>Is it possible, given the set  team size of eleven players, that this game was actually played by the rules of cricket? [lm]</p>)
    • 1840.16  + (<p>Is it safe to infer that Cape Island is on the NJ shore, near Cape May?</p>)
    • 1856.10  + (<p>Is it significant that this book features games for adolescents, not younger children?</p> <p>Answer: the articles cited in the comment make clear that Grand Theque, at least, was played by adults as well as children. [ba]</p>)
    • 1844.20  + (<p>Is it time to define "baseball card" a bit more narrowly in declaring a first?? </p>)
    • 1818c.7  + (<p>Is more known about Schubert's interest in ballplaying (if any)?</p> <p>Do we know of baserunning games in the Vienna area in this era?</p>)
    • In Wellington on 17 November 1888  + (<p>Is the "newly-established" Wellington club" the NZ Pioneer Club?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1785.3  + (<p>Is the Homestall Lane ref meant to convey that the competing sides within the county are to be determined by a player's residence on one or the other of the lane? [See Block reply above.]</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1630.4  + (<p>Is the Wiltshire County website's URL available? Is it still operative?</p> <p>Is the original source of the data given?</p>)
    • 1833.8  + (<p>Is the drawing associated with a song that may offer a clue? </p>)
    • Banana Ball  + (<p>Is the history of this variant to be found somewhere?</p>)
    • 1864.58  + (<p>Is the reported date correct?  A July 24 match was reported on July 10? </p>)
    • 1856.5  + (<p>Is there a claim that this is the earliest appearance of the term "national pastime" to denote base ball?</p>)
    • 1859.35  + (<p>Is there a good account of this negotiation and its outcome in the literature? How and when was the issue resolved?</p>)
    • 1873.12  + (<p>Is there a good source for Elizabeth Cady Stanton's interest in 19C base ball? </p>)
    • 1861.1  + (<p>Is there a primary source for this claim?</p> <p>Yes, NYC 3-30-61. [ba]</p>)
    • Stoolball  + (<p>Is there a recent publication that covers evidence concerning stoolball's earliest playing rules?</p>)
    • 1800c.1  + (<p>Is there a way to check the approximate year that the historian is depicting in this passage? </p>)
    • Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York v Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York on 22 May 1856  + (<p>Is there ambiguity about whether this intramural game was played in Hoboken NJ or Manhattan NY?  Did baseballchronology.com give a source for this game?  Was it played at Elysian Fields?</p>)
    • 1854.2  + (<p>Is there any detailed indication, or educated guess, as to what rules the Olympics uses in 1854?</p>)
    • 1847.7  + (<p>Is there any indication of what Tompkins' source might have been?</p>)
    • 1859.4  + (<p>Is there any indication that Association rules were used by the reported base bal club?</p>)
    • 1835.6  + (<p>Is there any indication that girls could or did play base ball in this text?</p>)
    • 1862.113  + (<p>Is there further evidence on the suggestion that evidence for Cartwright's base ball leadership was lost in a fire after his death? </p>)
    • Hildegarde  + (<p>Is there further evidence that this game was actually played, or was it publicized mainly to sell equipment?  What features does Hildegard have that contemporary stoolball lacked?</p> <p>Do we know what years and what locations saw this game?</p>)
    • 1850s.18  + (<p>Is there some way to discover the documentary basis for this report?</p>)
    • 1852.14  + (<p>Is this a recollection or a work of fiction?</p>)
    • 1862.22  + (<p>Is this crowd estimate reasonable? Are other contemporary or reflective accounts available?</p> <p>The crowd estimate is exaggerated. There weren't anywhere near 40,000 troops on the island at that time. [ba]</p>)
    • Hit the Bat  + (<p>Is this game known by other names other than those collected above?</p>)
    • 1867.1  + (<p>Is this game properly thought of as a national championship?</p>)
    • Onondaga Longball  + (<p>Is this game related to European forms of long ball?</p>)
    • 1886.1  + (<p>Is this indeed the first such trophy in base ball history?</p>)
    • 1857.32  + (<p>Is this item newsworthy because it is an early Providence ballclub, because it is a pioneering daybreak club, or neither?</p>)
    • Adjutant General's Office of Washington  + (<p>Is this just a one-time club?</p>)
    • Club of Granby  + (<p>Is this the Granby Club of Neosho?</p>)
    • Rough and Ready Club of South Walpole  + (<p>Is this the club that played the Massapoag of Sharon in June 1857?</p>)
    • 1854.5  + (<p>Is this the first base ball club organized in Brooklyn?</p>)
    • 1858.39  + (<p>Is this the first club established in CA since 1851? [Cf #1851.2, #1852.7, #1859.5]</p>)
    • 1856.21  + (<p>Is this the first known NJ club well outside the NY metropolitan area?</p>)
    • 1855.36  + (<p>Is this the first known report of African American club play of the New York game?</p> <p>See Supplemental Text, below, for John Zinn's view on this question. </p>)
    • 1859.51  + (<p>Is this the first time, as far as we know, that females played base ball by modern rules?</p>)
    • BC2400c.1  + (<p>It would be good to confirm details in an academic source and to see whether Egyptologists have any other interpretations of this text – and how Egyptian rites employed the ball as a symbol of fertility. </p>)
    • 1850s.14  + (<p>It would be interesting to know how much velocity of deliveries increased with the change to overhand throwing. </p>)
    • 1854.11  + (<p>It would be interesting to know if this game included outs made by the plugging baserunners.</p>)
    • BC100.1  + (<p>It would be interesting to know what particular features of Irish lore gave Lang the feeling that cricket stemmed from ancient Irish sources.</p>)
    • 1800s.11  + (<p>It would be useful to know when a … <p>It would be useful to know when and where the author's youth was spent; Hugh points out that the clip's reference to "muster day" implies that writer is likely depicting New England practices. If the "father" was in his thirties [pure conjecture] he is here reflecting on bat and ball play from the 1800-1810 period.</p>bat and ball play from the 1800-1810 period.</p>)
    • 1852.2  + (<p>John Thorn interprets this phrase … <p>John Thorn interprets this phrase to denote two games, [[bat-ball]] and base-ball. Others just see it as a local variant of the term base-ball. Is the truth findable here?  Note that Brian Turner, in <em>"The Bat and Ball": A Distinct Game or a Generic Term?,</em> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Base Ball</span>, volume 5, number 1, p. 37 ff, suggests that 'bat and ball" may have been a distinct game played in easternmost New England.</p>distinct game played in easternmost New England.</p>)
    • 1782.3  + (<p>Like, who is El?</p>)
    • 1812c.1  + (<p>Listed Source seems incomplete or garbled.  Help?</p>)
    • 1830s.13  + (<p>MacDougall asks: "Mary Mitford seems to have a pretty good idea of what the girls are playing, when they play at 'baseball' but it seems to have little or nothing to do with the sport we now call by that name. Does anyone know what it was?"</p>)
    • 1867.25  + (<p>Might the <em>New England B … <p>Might the <em>New England Base</em> <em>Ballist,</em> still alive in 1868, show more about the final passing on the game?<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br/></span></p></br><p>All in all, does the Mass Game differ in major ways from English Base Ball as we now understand it?</p> does the Mass Game differ in major ways from English Base Ball as we now understand it?</p>)
    • Monitor Club of New York v Olympic Club of Brooklyn on 26 April 1862  + (<p>Monitor of Brooklyn? </p>)
    • Rigoball  + (<p>Most coverage known to date is a decade old or older.  Is the game thriving now?</p>)
    • 1598.4  + (<p>Note: do later writers agree that this was mere coincidence?</p>)
    • 1815.8  + (<p>OK, was the game played a batting/baserunning game or a form of handball?  Does the term "knocked" over the wall give any clue?</p>)
    • 1862.4  + (<p>On what authority did it convey championship status?</p>)
    • Kwadrant  + (<p>One Polish writer (W. Liponski) suggests that kwadrant is similat to [[palant]]. Are details available?</p>)
    • 1848.5  + (<p>One wonders whether an earlier English edition of this book was later published; it is not online as of February 2013.</p>)
    • 1749.2  + (<p>Only two players were named for t … <p>Only two players were named for this account.  Was that because the Prince and Lord Middlesex both led clubs not worthy of mentioning by name, or was there a two-player version of the game then (in the 1800s competitive games of cricket were similarly reported with only two named players)?</p> reported with only two named players)?</p>)
    • Base Ball Club of Ottawa  + (<p>Ottawa had 21,000 residents in 1871.</p>)
    • 1857.18  + (<p>Our holy grail! Our lost ark! Is there evidence that replies were received and analyzed?</p>)
    • 1866.10  + (<p>Protoball would welcome input on how the rules of this game differed, if at all, from other games using "cat" in their names.</p>)
    • 1849.16  + (<p>Richard asks:  "I don't recognize … <p>Richard asks:  "I don't recognize the individuals. These clearly are men of substance, so I expect they can be tracked down. The mention of "the club" is intriguing. Is this an actual organized club, with or without baseball as its primary purpose? Or is that an informal usage?"</p></br><p>Abijah Ingraham was a newspaper editor and Dem Party politician. [ba[</p> and Dem Party politician. [ba[</p>)
    • 1857.31  + (<p>Rounders made a comeback later, at least as a school yard game played mostly be female players.  Is it clear whether the game was played significantly among men and boys before 1857?</p>)
    • Arctic Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Same as Arctic of East Brooklyn?</p>)
    • Columbia Jr. Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Same as Columbia Club of East Brooklyn?</p>)
    • Pacific Club of Elizabeth  + (<p>Same as Pacific Jr. Club?</p>)
    • Zephyr Club of Greenpoint  + (<p>Same as Zephyr of Brooklyn and Little Zephyrs of Greenpoint?</p>)
    • 1849.15  + (<p>See above Comments.</p>)
    • Aurora Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>See also Aurora of South Brooklyn?</p>)
    • Independent Club of South Brooklyn  + (<p>See also Independent Club of Brooklyn and independent Base Ball Club of Brooklyn?</p>)
    • 1860.87  + (<p>Should we assume that the club still played the Massachusetts Game?</p> <p>Is it significant that the batter is said to "throw" the bat, not that he lost his grip on it?</p>)
    • Arcadia Club of Brooklyn v Metamora Club of Fordham on 18 September 1860  + (<p>Site ok?</p>)
    • 1857.20  + (<p>Sixteen players? Three innings? Does this sound like the NY game to you?</p>)
    • 1829c.1  + (<p>Small Puzzle: Harvard's 19<sup>th</sup> Century playing field was "Holmes Field;" was it named for <em>this</em> Holmes? Harvard is in Cambridge MA.</p>)
    • 1680.3  + (<p>So . . . the quote was, perhaps, from a 1680 lecture by John Bunyan himslef?</p>)
    • 1859.42  + (<p>So . . . was this construed as the 1859 city crown, just a dyadic rivalry crown, an "until-we-lose-it crown, or what?</p>)
    • 1733.1  + (<p>Some actual text should be added here, if it can be captured.</p>)
    • Stickball  + (<p>Sources are needed on stickball play in 18th and 19th centuries, if any.</p> <p>Was stickball (perhaps under other names?) played in other urban areas outside Greater NYC?</p>)
    • 1830s.20  + (<p>Team hand-ball?  Really? Wasn't it usually a one-on-one game?</p>)
    • 1835c.17  + (<p>Terry's initial diary entry April … <p>Terry's initial diary entry April 4 entry begins "This morning I painted my stick: then thought I would begin to write a journal" just before recording his ballplaying.  He adds that he later "went and see-sawed. and then I painted my stick again, then ate supper."</p></br><p>Is it possible that the stick was his base ball bat?  Were painted bats common then?</p>base ball bat?  Were painted bats common then?</p>)
    • 1856.17  + (<p>The 1858 Dedham rules (two years after this letter) for the Massachusetts Game specified at least ten players on a team. The writer does not call the game the "MA game," and does not mention the use of stakes as bases, or the one-out-all-out rule.</p>)
    • Agallian Club of Middletown  + (<p>The Baseball Research Journal Spring 1984 has a photo purportedly c. 1867, of baseball being played at Wesleyan. It is credited to the Rucker Collection.</p>)
    • 1864.53  + (<p>The Massapoag Club of Sharon MA fielded 10-14 players for its pre-war games, which were subject to Massachusetts rules.  Why would the regimental history, 17 years later, refer to "nines"? </p>)
    • 1830c.27  + (<p>The gentleman, Major Brown, lived … <p>The gentleman, Major Brown, lived in Pittsfield from 1812 to 1838. As the event seems to be the author's personal recollection, verifying if and when he attended the Lenox Academy may narrow the range of possibilities for the period he recalls playing.</p>ibilities for the period he recalls playing.</p>)
    • 1861.15  + (<p>The place is more probably Camp Dement, in Dixon, IL [ba]</p>)
    • 1838.14  + (<p>The  game of dodgeball involves t … <p>The  game of dodgeball involves throwing a ball at other participants.  Protoball is unclear whether that sort of game was common in the early 19th Century.  Are many other cites for dodgeball?  Did primitive dodgeball have other names?</p>geball have other names?</p>)
    • Drive Ball  + (<p>These ambiguous bits appear to be … <p>These ambiguous bits appear to be Protoball's only references to drive ball; can we find out more about the nature of its play?</p></br><p>Is there evidence that drive ball included base-running? [A] a description of the game in Smalley's Magazine (1891, vol. 9, issue 8, p. 10) says no. [ba]</p>'s Magazine (1891, vol. 9, issue 8, p. 10) says no. [ba]</p>)
    • 1810c.1  + (<p>This game has similarity to base ball; could a French-speaking digger take a few moments to sort out whether more is known about the rules, origins, and fate of the game?</p>)
    • 1850c.8  + (<p>This game has similarity to base ball; could a French-speaking digger take a few moments to sort out whether more is known about the rules, origins, and fate of the game?</p>)
    • 1860.43  + (<p>This is the first VT item on base ball in the Protoball files, as of November 2008; can that be so? Earlier items above [#178.6, #1787.2, #1828c.5, and #1849.9] all cite wicket or goal. </p>)
    • Emerson's Side v Price's Side in 1856  + (<p>This match apparently did not pit opposing cities as most have.  Are many other cases of intra-city play known?</p>)
    • In West Chester Circa 1827  + (<p>This possibly refers to an early game of ball in Pennsylvania. The bat is referred to as a "ball-club." Other references of that time, however, refer to is as a bat. Also, being killed by a bat was seems not to have been a rarity at that time.</p>)
    • 1848.10  + (<p>This seems to have been a Philadelphia paper; why would it carry - or reprint - this central-MA story?</p>)
    • 1861.36  + (<p>This was Columbus, KY where several LA units were stationed. The newspaper article, from a correspondent's (named I.G.) letter dated Oct. 23, and mentions in particular Kennedy's Battalion (5th LA Infantry Battalion).</p>)
    • Club of Princeton  + (<p>Today Mount Bullion? See Mariposa.</p>)
    • Athletic, Active Club of Cheshire  + (<p>Two different teams?</p>)
    • Langball  + (<p>Wait . . . the <em>bottom</em> of their feet?</p>)
    • Friendships v Lyons in Fort Lyon on 9 November 1873  + (<p>Was "Co. H" a military unit, perhaps?</p> <p>Yes. [ba]</p>)
    • 1846.16  + (<p>Was "base-ball" a common term in MA then?</p>)
    • 1836.13  + (<p>Was "collegian" a term for a university student, back then?</p>)
    • 1856.19  + (<p>Was 5-player base ball common then? Did it follow special rules? How do 4 fielders cover the whole field?</p>)
    • 1853.19  + (<p>Was a form of unpleasant "confusi … <p>Was a form of unpleasant "confusion" anticipated?  Like what? Did the "sufficient force" imply that constables might be present to prevent a rumble?</p></br><p>Was this game given other newspaper coverage?</p></br><p>What do we know about where the "Tremont Street Mall" was? Was it not on Boston Common? [it is the Boston Common--ba]</p></br><p> </p>t on Boston Common? [it is the Boston Common--ba]</p> <p> </p>)
    • Halfball  + (<p>Was a pimple ball known to be used regularly in other locations for baserunning-type games?  </p>)
    • 1849.10  + (<p>Was cricket, including single-wicket cricket, known in any part of England as "wicket?"</p>)
    • 1827.3  + (<p>Was inter-college competition common in other English sports at this time?  Rowing, maybe?</p>)
    • Excelsior Jr. Club of Brooklyn v Enterprise Club of Brooklyn on 25 September 1856  + (<p>Was the Enterprise Club also a Junior Club?</p>)
    • 1842.11  + (<p>Was the game dissimilar from the European "battingball games" reported by Maigaard?</p> <p>Can we determine whether the players were youths or juveniles?</p>)
    • 1871.9  + (<p>Was the is first ever meeting of this group? </p> <p>Did it intend to represent base ball throughout California?</p> <p>Had other states established state-wide base ball associations by 1871?</p> <p> </p>)
    • 1855.45  + (<p>Was the writer saying, in "so often the last" game, that base ball and/or foot ball was not played much after Fast Day?</p> <p>Do we know what Boston-area foot ball like in 1855?</p>)
    • 1871.14  + (<p>Was this new NAABP destined to tinker with the rules of play?</p>)
    • 1871.13  + (<p>Was this one of the first known uses of past base ball feats as fun trivia in base ball reportage?</p>)
    • 1856.32  + (<p>Was this taken from the Knickerbocker game accounts?</p>)
    • National Club of Washington v Washington Club of Washington on 20 May 1862  + (<p>Was this the Jefferson Club that lost? See BRJ, vol. 34 p. 21.</p>)
    • 1847.13  + (<p>We have scant evidence that rouun … <p>We have scant evidence that rouunders was played extensively in the US; could this book be derivative of an English pubication?</p></br><p> </p></br><p>:Apparently so: the copy on Google Books says "Third American Edition," and the Preface is intensely redolent of English patriotism (" the noble and truly English game of CRICKET... ARCHERY once the pride of England")  [[User:Whicklin|Whicklin]] ([[User talk:Whicklin|talk]]) 04:08, 11 March 2016 (UTC)</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>4:08, 11 March 2016 (UTC)</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
    • 1850s.24  + (<p>We invite further discussion on this point. The text of the Wheaton letter is found at entry #[[1837.1]] above.</p>)
    • 1840s.31  + (<p>We welcome comment on the authenticity of Brooks' depiction of ballplaying in the 1840s, and whether how the game depicted compares to the MA game.</p>)
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