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  • Alert Club of Washington v Unique Club of Chicago in September 1871  + (<p>Any indication as to why the second game report for this African American club cites a score for 8 innings?</p>)
  • Targette  + (<p>Any new evidence on the nature and extent of targette play?</p>)
  • 1855.19  + (<p>Articles published later in the &<p>Articles published later in the <em>New York Clipper,</em> the <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Spirit of the Times</span>,</em> the <em>New-York Daily Times,</em> and the <em>Brooklyn Daily Eagle</em> announced the first appearance in print of 18 new clubs in the Greater NYC region during 1855.</p>> announced the first appearance in print of 18 new clubs in the Greater NYC region during 1855.</p>)
  • 1853.7  + (<p>As a way of teaching nature [each<p>As a way of teaching nature [each chapter introduces several birds, insects, and "wild plants"] this book follows a group of boys and girls of unspecified age [post-pubescent, we guess] through a calendar year. The bass-ball/rounders reference above is one of the few times we run across both terms in a contemporary writing. So, now: Is the author denoting are there two distinct <em>games</em> with different rules, or just two distinct <em>names</em> for the same game?  The syntax here leaves that distinction muddy, as it could be the former answer if the children played bass-ball and rounders separately that [June] day. </p></br><p>Richard's take on the bass-ball/rounders ambiguity: "It is possible that there were two games the party played . . . but the likelier interpretation is that this was one game, with both names given to ensure clarity." David Block [email of 2/27/2008] agrees with Richard. Richard also says "It is possible that as the English dialect moved from "base ball" to "rounders," English society concurrently moved from the game being played primarily played by boys and only sometimes being played by girls. I am not qualified to say."</p>being played by girls. I am not qualified to say."</p>)
  • Rockford Club of Rockford  + (<p>As listed in the Box score of the<p>As listed in the Box score of the Chicago game (Trib, 8-24-70), the Rockford nine consisted of:</p></br><p>Armstrong, Graham, Williams, Winn, Wright, Abraham, Pender, Kingman and Thomas.</p></br><p>Rockford had 83 "colored" residents in 1870, per the census.</p>lt;p>Rockford had 83 "colored" residents in 1870, per the census.</p>)
  • 1828.17  + (<p>As of 2018, we do not know the lo<p>As of 2018, we do not know the location, game type, or rules for this game.</p></br><p>It is interesting that the man identified his position as short stop, perhaps indicating that predecessor baserunning games in New England had already developed skill positions' decades before the Knickerbocker club formed. </p></br><p> </p>efore the Knickerbocker club formed. </p> <p> </p>)
  • In Wellington on 17 November 1888  + (<p>As of 2021, we know of two earlie<p>As of 2021, we know of two earlier game reports of games in NZ.</p></br><p>See [[https://protoball.org/Marton_Base_Ball_Club]]  (1881 game).</p></br><p>See [[https://protoball.org/Hicks-Sawyer_Minstrel_Co._side_1_v_Hicks-Sawyer_Minstrel_Co._side_2_in_November_1888]]  (unsourced 1888 game).</p></br><p>Lyttleton is a nearby port city. </p></br><p>The Hicks-Sawyer "negro" minstrel troupe toured New Zealand and Australia 1888-89. This troupe had its own baseball club, which played numerous games against the local clubs. Cf. Sydney <em>Referee</em>, Aug. 30, 1888; Melbourne <em>Age</em>, <br/>Feb. 23, 1889; Adelaide <em>South Australian Register</em>, April 8, 1889; Broken Hill <em>Barrier Miner</em>, April 20, 22, 1889. [ba]</p>;South Australian Register</em>, April 8, 1889; Broken Hill <em>Barrier Miner</em>, April 20, 22, 1889. [ba]</p>)
  • London Base Ball Club v Club of Delaware Township on 12 September 1856  + (<p>As of April 2021 this game is also listed under "predecessor games."</p> <p>The Delaware is a club of Delaware Township, 10 km west of London,</p>)
  • 1874.2  + (<p>As of February 2017, data on earl<p>As of February 2017, data on early ballplaying in the Chattanooga area are sparse.  They include five accounts of soldierly play during the Civil War and brief mentions of area base ball clubs after the war</p></br><p>Protoball believes "shinny" to be a game resembling field hockey and ice hockey, and not a baserunning game.</p></br><p>Protoball has only two other reports of the game of "baste" in a Princeton student's diary in 1786 and in a biography of Benjamin Harrison on his teenage activities in the Cincinnati area.  A good guess is that baste was a variant spelling of "base," a base ball precursor.</p></br><p>The <em>Cleveland Banner</em> is a newspaper in Cleveland TN.</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>Banner</em> is a newspaper in Cleveland TN.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1840s.31  + (<p>As of Jan 2013, this is one of th<p>As of Jan 2013, this is one of three uses of "gool" instead of "goal" in ballplaying entries, all in the 1850s and found in western MA and ME.  [To confirm/update, do an Enhanced Search for "gool".]  One of these, at [[1850s.33]] uses "gool" as the name of the game.  See also <strong>Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>;Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>)
  • 1738.1  + (<p>As of January 2023, this appears to be one of Protoball's ten earliest reports of ballplaying in the  United States, and the third to appear in what is now New York City.  It may be the first know legal action taken against ballplaying.</p>)
  • Bete-Ombro  + (<p>As of January 2023, this is all we know about Bete-ombro.   The second rule, above, would seem to distinguish it from cricket.</p>)
  • 1858.73  + (<p>As of July 2022, Protoball lists over 260 base ball clubs from that era.</p> <p>Bruce Allardice adds, 7/30/2022:  "the [<em>Boston Post's</em>] 25 number seems to come from the number of clubs that attended the 1858 convention."</p>)
  • Bace  + (<p>As of June 2019, Protoball has only 3 references to “base,” one in the 1300s and two in 1805.</p>)
  • 1813.3  + (<p>As of June 2022, Protoball is not aware of accounts of ballplaying in Hawthorne's works.  For a reference to his note on 1862 ballplaying near Alexandria VA, see [[1862.47]]. </p>)
  • 1867.22  + (<p>As of March 2021, this appears to<p>As of March 2021, this appears to be the earliest reference to a right -- in the form of special tickets -- to exclusive seating being bestowed to reporters. </p></br><p>Peter Morris discusses press coverage arrangements in Morris, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">A Game of Inches</span> (Ivan Dee, 2006), section 14.5.3, pp 403 ff.  He cites  two Henry Chadwick sources of press areas in June and August 1867 at the Brooklyn Union Grounds and then the Capitoline and Irvington grounds. </p>then the Capitoline and Irvington grounds. </p>)
  • Magnolia Ball Club of New York  + (<p>As of September 2014, we have no <p>As of September 2014, we have no evidence as to the playing rules this club employed.  Thus, we don't yet know whether the game played resembled the Knickerbocker game, codified in 1845, or not. The depiction of stakes for bases, if accurate, might suggest to some that the game was related to what in 1858 was described as the Massachusetts game -- however, the Mass game then used overhand deliveries to batsmen.   </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>;p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • Slaball  + (<p>As of September 2017, we find no other mention of a game by this name in English-language web searches.</p>)
  • Strike-Out  + (<p>As of Spring 2022, we are seeking<p>As of Spring 2022, we are seeking additional information on local "strike-zone-on-wall" games.</p></br><p>One sees strike zones displayed on school-yard and other walls in many geographical areas.</p></br><p>What names were used for such games in different areas?  Did any involve actual base-running?</p></br><p>Are such games known outside the US?  Did most use standard tennis balls?</p> such games known outside the US?  Did most use standard tennis balls?</p>)
  • 1868.8  + (<p>As of mid 2023, the Protoball Chr<p>As of mid 2023, the Protoball Chronology includes about 40 entries alluding to Rochester NY from 1825 to 1868.  Nearly half have been generously contributed by crack Rochester digger Priscilla Astifan.  Most of the games reported appear to be base ball-like games, but 8 refer to cricket, wicket and trap ball. <span>Ten entries refer to soldierly play during the Civil War.</span></p></br><p>Priscilla reported on 5/18/2023:  <span> "I haven't yet found any notice in the available newspapers of the game being played or not.  But at least the intention was interesting."</span> </p>the intention was interesting."</span> </p>)
  • Eckford Club of Brooklyn v Eckford Club of Brooklyn on 15 April 1862  + (<p>As per the newspaper report, each side featured 10 players and five first nine players, per side.  Sprague pitched for "Wood's Side." </p>)
  • 1830c.30  + (<p>Ashtabula (1850 population: 821 s<p>Ashtabula (1850 population: 821 souls) is about 55 miles NE of Cleveland OH and a few miles from Lake Erie.  The town of Jefferson OH is about 8 miles inland [S] of Ashtabula.</p></br><p>"The <em>Sentinel" </em>is presumably the <em>Ashtabula Sentinel</em>. </p>;is presumably the <em>Ashtabula Sentinel</em>. </p>)
  • Brown Square  + (<p>Astifan, "Baseball in the 19th Ce<p>Astifan, "Baseball in the 19th Century" says Brown Square was the site of Rochester's first match game.</p></br><p>Other early games were played at Jones Square, Franklin Square, and the Babbitt Tract. In 1858 the city council allowed Brown and Franklin Squares to be used for baseball. Rochester Union and Advertiser, Aug. 11, 1858.</p></br><p>The 1860 Rochester map shows Jones Square bounded by Jones Avenue on the south, bounded by Schuyler on the east, about where the modern Jones Square is.</p></br><p>Franklin Square in 1860 was on the east side of the river, bounded by Andrews on the south, Bowery on the north, and bisected by Chatham (north/south running street).</p></br><p>The Babbitt Tract was at the corner of High (today, Clarissa) and Troup Sts.</p></br><p>"Mumford's meadow" was the site of a (predecessor?) baseball game c. 1825. See chronologies. The site of this meadow is shown in the linked-to pdf.</p>r?) baseball game c. 1825. See chronologies. The site of this meadow is shown in the linked-to pdf.</p>)
  • Gazelles Club of Evanston  + (<p>At a guess, this club played their home games on the campus, what would be known as "Oak Grove" or "University Grove" near the modern-day college library.</p>)
  • In Burma in 1909  + (<p>At a guess, this is the original <p>At a guess, this is the original of the note in Spalding's The National Game about American oil workers playing baseball in Burma. The Spalding phot collection, NYPL, has a photo of what may be this team, said to be employees of the Rangoon Oil Co., in "Yenamgyat, Upper Burmah." This location is probably Yenangyaung. </p>This location is probably Yenangyaung. </p>)
  • 1861.25  + (<p>At the time the 40th was stationed at Camp Sedgwick, near Fairfax, VA.</p>)
  • Duquesne Club of Pittsburgh  + (<p>At this time Pittsburgh was often spelled "Pittsburg" but in 1911, the authorities agreed make the "gh" spelling official.</p>)
  • White Stockings Club of Chicago  + (<p>Attached image is that of Colonel Norman Gassette (1839-91), first club president, a prominent Chicago lawyer and politician. Club vice president was Willard F. Wentworth (1838-1910),  a former city treasurer.</p>)
  • University Base Ball Club of Chapel Hill  + (<p>Augustus W. Graham, son of former<p>Augustus W. Graham, son of former senator Graham, wrote his father on Sept. 10, 1867 from Chapel Hill that his university club defeated the Crescent of Raleigh "last Saturday" 54-36, for the championship of the state. See the Papers of William A. Graham, vol. 7</p> See the Papers of William A. Graham, vol. 7</p>)
  • Club of Austin  + (<p>Austin had 4,051 residents in 1890.</p>)
  • Eckford Club of Brooklyn v Harlem Club of New York on 20 August 1859  + (<p>Balls Pitched</p> <p>Pidgeon (Eckford):    44-28-28-24-51-15-10-30-65 - 295</p> <p>Thompson (Harlem): 19-31-25-17-23-36-41-44-14 - 250</p> <p>(E. Miklich)</p>)
  • Rough and Ready Club of Brooklyn v Baltic Club of Brooklyn on 15 September 1858  + (<p>Baltic of New York? [ba]</p>)
  • Oakland Club of South River  + (<p>Baltimore <em>American</em>, Aug. 4, 1869</p>)
  • 1855.37  + (<p>Barre MA (1855 pop. about 3000) is about 60 miles W of Boston.  Hardwick, Hubbardstown, Oakham, New Braintree and Petersham are 8-10 miles from Barre. Poor Dana MA was disincorporated in 1938.</p>)
  • 1859.50  + (<p>Barre MA (1860 pop. about 3000) is about 60 miles W of Boston and about 8 miles NE of Hardwick MA.</p>)
  • Club of Barton v Club of Burlington on 9 August 1861  + (<p>Barton is the name of the township Hamilton is in. See Club of Barton entry. [ba]</p>)
  • In Clinton Circa 1859  + (<p>Baseball was played at Hamilton in 1860.</p>)
  • Newark Club of Newark v Empire Club of New York on 7 August 1857  + (<p>Based on the names of the players for the Empire Club in the box score that appeared in the 8/15/1857 edition of Porter's Spirit of the Times, this was the Empire Club of Newark, not New York - John Zinn</p>)
  • Franklin Club of Detroit v Franklin Club of Detroit on 15 August 1857  + (<p>Beaubien Farm was a cricket club grounds.</p> <p>A game reported in the Detroit Free Press Aug. 23, 1857 is of two 10 on 10 intersquad games, with the scores 21-11 and 21-19. </p>)
  • Enterprise Club of Bedford  + (<p>Bedford was and is a neighborhood of Brooklyn</p>)
  • 1862.12  + (<p>Beecher is here lauding exercise that is both vigorous and inexpensive.</p>)
  • Pastimes Club of Richmond v Picked nine on 30 July 1867  + (<p>Benefit game for the Masonic Educational Committee Fund. $115 surplus over expenses donated on 19 August.</p>)
  • Everett Club of Hackensack  + (<p>Bergen County Democrat and New Jersey State Register, 7/6/1866</p>)
  • Quickstep Club of Bergen  + (<p>Bergen merged into Jersey City in 1870.</p>)
  • 1856.25  + (<p>Berkshire MA is about 5 miles NE of Pittsfield and about 10 miles E of New York state border. </p> <p>This may have been a wicket match. One wonders why a Friday match would have been held.</p>)
  • 1849.10  + (<p>Beth Hise [email of 3/3/2008] rep<p>Beth Hise [email of 3/3/2008] reports that the wearing of colored ribbons was a much older tradition.</p></br><p><strong>Note:</strong> One may ask if something got lost in the relay of this story to Wisconsin. We know of no wicket in England, and neither wicket or cricket used nine-player teams.</p>et in England, and neither wicket or cricket used nine-player teams.</p>)
  • 1859.73  + (<p>Bill Hicklin, 10/5/20 points out <p>Bill Hicklin, 10/5/20 points out that "Militia regiments in that period, especially in major East Coast cities and in the South, were as much social clubs as anything, organized mostly to hold balls and banquets. Compare the New York volunteer fire companies of the 1840s. A 'Road Trip to New York' would have been right up their alley."</p></br><p>Protoball had asked: Was it common for southern soldiers to travel to the north in 1859? Bruce Allardice: "This was not common. The cost was too great. The Richmond Grays were individually wealthy and could afford it. Drill competition between companies in various cities was common in 1859."</p></br><p>From Bruce Allardice, 10/5/20: "The unit was a famous unit of the Virginia volunteer militia, its members being among Richmond's 'elite.'. Captain Elliott became a Confederate army Lt. Colonel. The unit served in the war as part [Company A] of the 1st Virginia Infantry CSA." Bill Hicklin, 10/5/20, adds that it fought "right through to Appomattox."</p></br><p>Why the soldiers headed to a cemetery? Tom Gilbert pointed out, 10/5-6/20, that Green-wood Cemetery was even then a popular visitor attraction. "Green-wood cemetery in Brooklyn not only welcomed tourists but solicited them. The cemetery was designed with the goal of attracting the public. It imported the grave of Dewitt Clinton for that purpose. All of this predated the famous baseball grave monuments of course."</p></br><p>From Richard Hershberger, 10/4/2020: "Richmond is rich with abortive early connections with baseball. In actual practice, baseball took off in Richmond in the summer of 1866, right on schedule for its location, regardless of prior contact with the game."</p></br><p>Note: When base ball got to Richmond it really swept in: as of October 2020, Protoball shows no clubs prior to 1866, but 24 clubs prior to 1867. Some other Chronology entries touching on early base ball in Richmond include [[1857.36]], [[1861.1]], [[1863.99]], and [[1866.17]].</p></br><p> </p>[[1866.17]].</p> <p> </p>)
  • 1871.20  + (<p>Bill Hicklin, 3/9/2016:</p><p>Bill Hicklin, 3/9/2016:</p></br><p>"It's one of the commonplaces of the old origins debate that led to the Mills Commission that Henry Chadwick was foremost among those arguing that baseball evolved directly from rounders, and indeed he said so many times.  In opposition stood those patriotic Americans such as Ward who claimed an indigenous heritage from the Old Cat games."</p>med an indigenous heritage from the Old Cat games."</p>)
  • Charter Oak Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Keystone Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)