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|Description=<p>"The Young America Club will have their first game of Base Ball on Thursday, 30th, at the Red House [in Harlem].&nbsp; The following are the names of the members of this Club:&nbsp; George Bache, James Yardly, Jesse Lewis, John Wood, R. Sterling, W. Gantz, J. Taylor, K. Jewell, S. Smith, D. Blount, D Beach., H. Moer."&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;Commentary from Richard Hershberger, 5/8/2013:</p>
<p>The verb tenses notwithstanding, the date of that game was November 30.&nbsp; I assume the press release was written before the game but published late.&nbsp; I don't know if the game actually took place, or if the club ever met again.&nbsp; I don't know of any subsequent mention of it, though this doesn't necessarily mean it didn't exist.&nbsp; Some of those surnames pop up in later years.&nbsp; I have never followed up on whether the first names match.&nbsp; A surprising number of clubs formed in the late Fall, which would seem an unpropitious time of year for such things.&nbsp; Do we count this club beyond 1854?&nbsp; I guess not.&nbsp; We have no evidence that they were active that year, any more than we do for&nbsp;the old Washington club the Knickerbockers played against in 1851 or so. [RH]</p>
|Sources=<p>NYC Dec. 2, 1854</p>
|Sources=<p>NYC Dec. 2, 1854</p>
<p>SOT Nov. 3, 1855</p>
<p>SOT Nov. 3, 1855</p>

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Nick Name Young America
Earliest Known Date Monday, October 30, 1854
Location New York, Manhattan, NY, United States
Nine Class Senior
Description

"The Young America Club will have their first game of Base Ball on Thursday, 30th, at the Red House [in Harlem].  The following are the names of the members of this Club:  George Bache, James Yardly, Jesse Lewis, John Wood, R. Sterling, W. Gantz, J. Taylor, K. Jewell, S. Smith, D. Blount, D Beach., H. Moer." 

 Commentary from Richard Hershberger, 5/8/2013:

The verb tenses notwithstanding, the date of that game was November 30.  I assume the press release was written before the game but published late.  I don't know if the game actually took place, or if the club ever met again.  I don't know of any subsequent mention of it, though this doesn't necessarily mean it didn't exist.  Some of those surnames pop up in later years.  I have never followed up on whether the first names match.  A surprising number of clubs formed in the late Fall, which would seem an unpropitious time of year for such things.  Do we count this club beyond 1854?  I guess not.  We have no evidence that they were active that year, any more than we do for the old Washington club the Knickerbockers played against in 1851 or so. [RH]

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NYC Dec. 2, 1854

SOT Nov. 3, 1855

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Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know

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Year Games Wins Losses Ties
1854 1 Played 0 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1855 1 Played 0 Won 1 Lost 0 Tied
1857 1 Played 0 Won 1 Lost 0 Tied
1858 3 Played 0 Won 3 Lost 0 Tied
1859 3 Played 0 Won 2 Lost 0 Tied
1860 7 Played 3 Won 2 Lost 1 Tied

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Page Date City Borough State Team 1 Team 2 Score First in Contributor
Ballgame 1854-11-30 New York Manhattan NY Young America Club of New York Unknown Richard Hershberger
Ballgame 1855-10-22 Morrisania The Bronx NY Union Club of Morrisania Young America Club of New York 25 - 8 The Bronx Craig Waff
Ballgame 1857-10-10 New York Manhattan NY Young America Club of New York Champion Club of Brooklyn 39 - 22 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1857-11-08 New York Manhattan NY Telegraph Young America Club of New York 24 - 23 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-05-22 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Contest Club of Brooklyn Young America Club of New York 18 - 13 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-06-10 New York Manhattan NY Young America Club of New York Excelsior Jr. Club of New York 27 - 25 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-06-18 New York Manhattan NY Young America Club of New York Ashland Club of New York 52 - 15 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-06-19 New York Manhattan NY Contest Club of Brooklyn Young America Club of New York 31 - 17 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-06-28 Greenpoint Brooklyn NY Young America Club of New York Excelsior Club of New York 25 - 22 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-10-09 Harlem Manhattan NY Active Club of Harlem Young America Club of New York 24 - 21 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1859-06-04 New York Manhattan NY Active Base Ball Club of New York Young America Club of New York 40 - 18 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1859-07-05 Newark Essex County NJ Washington Jr. Club of Newark Young America Club of New York 33 - 17 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1859-07-23 New York Manhattan NY Washington Young America Club of New York Craig Waff
Ballgame 1860-08-08 New York Manhattan NY Osceola Club of New York Young America Club of New York 32 - 16 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1860-09-22 New York Manhattan NY Young America Club of New York Neptune Club 39 - 23 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1860-09-22 New York Manhattan NY Mazeppa Club of New York Young America Club of New York Craig Waff
Ballgame 1860-10-20 New York Manhattan NY Young America Club of New York Delta Club of New York 33 - 22 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1860-10-27 New York Manhattan NY Young America Club of New York Pacific Club of Newark 31 - 18 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1860-10-27 Delta Club of Brooklyn Young America Club of New York 26 - 26 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1860-11-14 New York Manhattan NY Baltic Jr. Club of New York Young America Club of New York 20 - 8 Bob Tholkes

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