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{{Club
{{Club
|Coordinates=40.7143528, -74.0059731
|Entry Origin=Richard Hershberger Spreadsheets
|Name=Gotham Club of New York
|Name=Gotham Club of New York
|Club Name=Gotham
|Club Name=Gotham
|Date=07/09/1853
|Type of Date=Year
|Type of Date=Day
|Date=1853/07/01
|Date of Dissolution Type=Day
|Country=United States
|State=NY
|Borough=Manhattan
|City=New York
|City=New York
|State=NY
|Country=United States
|Coordinates=40.7143528, -74.0059731
|Nine Class=Senior
|Nine Class=Senior
|Description=<p>game of 530708 over two days</p>
|Description=<p>There is some dispute as to whether this team is the same Gotham club that began as the Gothams in 1837 and then became the New York Club in 1843 that likely played the Knickerbockers in the first match game in 1846.&nbsp; Peverelly cites that this team was a "consolidation" with the Washington Club http://protoball.org/New:Washington_Base_Ball_Club. To quote a 9/19/14 email from Richard Hershberger "<span>I would expect to see the word 'consolidating' with regard to two existing clubs, not a newly formed and an existing club." (rc)</span></p>
|Sources=<p>NYST 530709</p>
|Sources=<p>NYST 530709</p>
|Reviewed=No
|Comment=<p>Despite the conflicting views as to the pedigree of the team, for the time being all players and games from either the 1837 or 1853 incarnations of the Gothams appear on the page of the 1837 team. http://fast.protoball.org/Gothams_Club_of_New_York</p>
|Has Source On Hand=No
|Reviewed=Yes
|Submitted by=Richard Hershberger
|Submitted by=Richard Hershberger
|Entry Origin=Richard Hershberger Spreadsheets
|Has Supplemental Text=No
|Borough=Manhattan
}}
}}

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Nick Name Gotham
Earliest Known Date 1853
Location New York, Manhattan, NY, United States
Nine Class Senior
Description

There is some dispute as to whether this team is the same Gotham club that began as the Gothams in 1837 and then became the New York Club in 1843 that likely played the Knickerbockers in the first match game in 1846.  Peverelly cites that this team was a "consolidation" with the Washington Club http://protoball.org/New:Washington_Base_Ball_Club. To quote a 9/19/14 email from Richard Hershberger "I would expect to see the word 'consolidating' with regard to two existing clubs, not a newly formed and an existing club." (rc)

Sources

NYST 530709

Comment

Despite the conflicting views as to the pedigree of the team, for the time being all players and games from either the 1837 or 1853 incarnations of the Gothams appear on the page of the 1837 team. http://fast.protoball.org/Gothams_Club_of_New_York

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Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know

Warning: Users should not rely on a team's won-loss record as a reflection of its "standing" among all base ball clubs. Team schedules were not balanced, and a good record against mostly weak opponents does not signify a leading club.

Year Games Wins Losses Ties
1855 1 Played 1 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1856 1 Played 1 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1857 2 Played 2 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1858 3 Played 1 Won 2 Lost 0 Tied
1859 4 Played 1 Won 3 Lost 0 Tied
1860 5 Played 4 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1861 4 Played 1 Won 3 Lost 0 Tied
1862 15 Played 9 Won 6 Lost 0 Tied
1863 9 Played 3 Won 6 Lost 0 Tied

Ballgames

Page Date City Borough State Team 1 Team 2 Score First in Contributor
Ballgame 1855-11-05 East Newark Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Newark Club 26 - 4 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1856-09-05 Harlem Manhattan NY Gotham Club of New York Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York 21 - 7 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1857-09-23 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York St. Nicholas Club of New York 25 - 17 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1857-10-07 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York St. Nicholas Club of New York 18 - 13 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-08-13 Greenpoint Brooklyn NY Gotham Club of New York Eckford Club of Brooklyn 41 - 27 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-10-01 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Eckford Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 40 - 24 Eric Miklich
Ballgame 1859-07-22 Greenpoint Brooklyn NY Eckford Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 38 - 25 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1859-07-29 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eagle Base Ball Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 48 - 25 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1859-10-04 New York Manhattan NY Gotham Club of New York Eagle Base Ball Club of New York 40 - 19 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1859-10-11 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Newark Club 11 - 20 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1860-07-10 New York Manhattan NY Gotham Club of New York United Club of New York 66 - 2 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1860-08-24 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Jefferson 56 - 16 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1860-11-06 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mohawk Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 11 - 26 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1860-11-13 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Gotham Club of New York Craig Waff
Ballgame 1861-08-07 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 25 - 22 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1861-08-20 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Enterprise Club of Brooklyn 14 - 13 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1861-10-15 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eagle Base Ball Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 32 - 27 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1861-10-15 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eagle Base Ball Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 30 - 15 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-05-13 New York Manhattan NY Gotham Club of New York Eagle Base Ball Club of New York 17 - 15 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-07-10 Gotham Club of New York Eureka Club of Newark 3 - 26 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1862-07-19 New York Manhattan NY Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 52 - 14 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-07-21 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Mutual Club of New York 14 - 51 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1862-07-29 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eureka Club of Newark Gotham Club of New York 39 - 19 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1862-07-29 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Mutual Club of New York 14 - 9 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-08 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eureka Club of Newark Gotham Club of New York 18 - 13 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-08-07 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Gotham Club of New York Charter Oak Club of Brooklyn 17 - 13 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-08-14 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Mutual Club of New York 15 - 14 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-09-04 Harlem Manhattan NY Harlem Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 29 - 15 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-09-09 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eagle Base Ball Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 25 - 51 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1862-09-09 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Eagle Base Ball Club of New York 17 - 16 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-10-14 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Harlem Club of New York 19 - 10 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-10-20 Harlem Manhattan NY Gotham Club of New York Harlem Club of New York 24 - 17 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1862-10-27 New York Manhattan NY Harlem Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 17 - 24 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-06-10 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Star Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 41 - 16 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-06-23 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Eagle Base Ball Club of New York 19 - 15 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-06-26 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Empire Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 38 - 26 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-07-01 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Empire Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 14 - 16 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-07-03 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Empire Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 38 - 26 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-07-15 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 21 - 15 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-07-21 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Empire Club of New York 26 - 22 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-07-28 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 19 - 5 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1863-09-11 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Star Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 21 - 19 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-02-12 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Empire Club of New York 26 - 13 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-06-13 Newark Essex County NJ Newark Club Gotham Club of New York 44 - 10 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-07-01 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Eagle Base Ball Club of New York 22 - 16 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-07-08 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Newark Club 25 - 12 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-07-12 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Empire Club of New York 26 - 17 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-07-26 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Empire Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 13 - 22 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-08-12 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 23 - 7 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-08-19 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Eagle Base Ball Club of New York 69 - 10 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-08-23 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Atlantic Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 14 - 9 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-08-25 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 12 - 11 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-08-30 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Gotham Club of New York Newark Club 14 - 18 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-09-09 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Enterprise Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 17 - 11 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-09-19 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Atlantic Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 38 - 12 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-09-28 Newark Essex County NJ Gotham Club of New York Newark Club 6 - 8 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-10-03 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 12 - 10 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1864-10-11 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Empire Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 10 - 10 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-01-12 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Atlantic Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 32 - 5 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-01-16 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Atlantic Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 20 - 39 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-01-26 Brooklyn Brooklyn NY Atlantic Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 50 - 30 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-06-06 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Enterprise Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 18 - 19 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-06-16 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Athletic Club of Philadelphia Gotham Club of New York 28 - 20 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-07-11 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 27 - 4 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-07-14 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Atlantic Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 38 - 21 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-07-18 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Eagle Base Ball Club of New York 38 - 16 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-08-01 Newburgh NY Gotham Club of New York Hudson River Club of Newburgh 34 - 5 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-08-08 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Empire Club of New York 6 - 29 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-08-11 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Hudson River Club of Newburgh 30 - 26 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-08-15 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Olympic Club of Paterson 77 - 18 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-08-22 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Mutual Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 18 - 12 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-09-05 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eckford Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 18 - 9 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-09-06 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eckford Club of Brooklyn Gotham Club of New York 18 - 9 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-09-15 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Eagle Base Ball Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 32 - 32 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-09-29 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Active Base Ball Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 23 - 9 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-10-02 Paterson Passaic County NJ Gotham Club of New York Olympic Club of Paterson 35 - 29 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-10-18 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Active Base Ball Club of New York Gotham Club of New York 28 - 11 Bob Tholkes
Ballgame 1865-11-24 Hoboken Hudson County NJ Gotham Club of New York Active Base Ball Club of New York 30 - 24 Bob Tholkes

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