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|Headline=Four-day Attendance of 40,000 Souls Watch Famous Roundball Game in Worcester
|Headline=Four-day Attendance of 40,000 Souls Watch Famous Roundball Game in Worcester
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|Year=1858
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|Text=<p>"One of the most celebrated games of roundball was played on the Agricultural Grounds in Worcester, Mass., in 1858.  It was between the Medways of Medway and the Union Excelsiors.  It was for $1000 a side.  It took four days to play the game.  The attendance was more than 10,000 at each day a play [sic].  In the neighboring towns the factories gave their employees holidays to see the game."</p>
|Text=<p>"One of the most celebrated games of roundball was played on the Agricultural Grounds in Worcester, Mass., in 1858.  It was between the Medways of Medway and the Union Excelsiors.  It was for $1000 a side.  It took four days to play the game.  The attendance was more than 10,000 at each day a play [sic].  In the neighboring towns the factories gave their employees holidays to see the game."</p>
<p>"H. S.," [Henry Sargent?] of Grafton, MA, "Roundball," <u>The Sun</u> [City?], May 8, 1905 [page?].  From an unidentified clipping found in the Giamatti Center.  The clipping is noted as "60-27" and it may be from the Spalding Collection.</p>
<p>"H. S.," [Henry Sargent?] of Grafton, MA, "Roundball," <u>The Sun</u> [City?], May 8, 1905 [page?].  From an unidentified clipping found in the Giamatti Center.  The clipping is noted as "60-27" and it may be from the Spalding Collection.</p>
<p><b>Note:</b>  David Nevard raises vital questions about this account:  "I have my doubts about this item - it just doesn't seem to fit. 1) The club names don't sound right. The famous club from Medway was the Unions, not the Medways, and I haven't seen any other mention of Union Excelsiors. 2) Lowry's evolution of the longest Mass Game does not mention this one. He shows the progression (in 1859) as 57 inns, 61 inns, 211 inns. It seems like a 4 day game in 1858 would have lasted longer than 57 innings.  3) It's a recollection 50 years after the fact. $1000, 10,000 people."  [Email to Protoball, 2/27/07.]</p>
<p><b>Note:</b>  David Nevard raises vital questions about this account:  "I have my doubts about this item - it just doesn't seem to fit. 1) The club names don't sound right. The famous club from Medway was the Unions, not the Medways, and I haven't seen any other mention of Union Excelsiors. 2) Lowry's evolution of the longest Mass Game does not mention this one. He shows the progression (in 1859) as 57 inns, 61 inns, 211 inns. It seems like a 4 day game in 1858 would have lasted longer than 57 innings.  3) It's a recollection 50 years after the fact. $1000, 10,000 people."  [Email to Protoball, 2/27/07.]</p>
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"One of the most celebrated games of roundball was played on the Agricultural Grounds in Worcester, Mass., in 1858. It was between the Medways of Medway and the Union Excelsiors. It was for $1000 a side. It took four days to play the game. The attendance was more than 10,000 at each day a play [sic]. In the neighboring towns the factories gave their employees holidays to see the game."

"H. S.," [Henry Sargent?] of Grafton, MA, "Roundball," The Sun [City?], May 8, 1905 [page?]. From an unidentified clipping found in the Giamatti Center. The clipping is noted as "60-27" and it may be from the Spalding Collection.

Note: David Nevard raises vital questions about this account: "I have my doubts about this item - it just doesn't seem to fit. 1) The club names don't sound right. The famous club from Medway was the Unions, not the Medways, and I haven't seen any other mention of Union Excelsiors. 2) Lowry's evolution of the longest Mass Game does not mention this one. He shows the progression (in 1859) as 57 inns, 61 inns, 211 inns. It seems like a 4 day game in 1858 would have lasted longer than 57 innings. 3) It's a recollection 50 years after the fact. $1000, 10,000 people." [Email to Protoball, 2/27/07.]

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