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|Headline="Rounders" Said to be Played at Phillips Andover School
|Headline="Rounders" Said to be Played at Phillips Andover School
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|Location=Massachusetts,
|Game=Rounders, Massachusetts Game, Round  
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|Game=Rounders, Massachusetts Game, Round Ball
|Immediacy of Report=Retrospective
|Age of Players=Youth
|Age of Players=Youth
|Text=<p>"The game of "<strong>rounders</strong>," as it was played in the days before the Civil War, had only a faint resemblance to our modern baseball. For a description of a typical contest, which took place in 1853, we are indebted to Dr. William A. Mowry:"</p>
|Text=<p>[A] "The game of "<strong>rounders</strong>," as it was played in the days before the Civil War, had only a faint resemblance to our modern baseball. For a description of a typical contest, which took place in 1853, we are indebted to Dr. William A. Mowry:"</p>
<p>[Nine students had posted a challenge to play "a game of ball," and that challenge was accepted [by eleven other students.] "The game was a long one. No account was made of 'innings;' the record was merely of runs. When one had knocked the ball, had run the bases, and had reached the 'home goal,' that counted one 'tally.' The game was for fifty tallies. The custom was to have no umpire, and the pitcher stood midway between the second and third bases, but nearer the center of the square. The batter stood midway between the first and fourth base, and the catcher just behind the batter, as near or as far as he pleased.</p>
<p>[Nine students had posted a challenge to play "a game of ball," and that challenge was accepted by eleven other students.] "The game was a long one. No account was made of 'innings;' the record was merely of runs. When one had knocked the ball, had run the bases, and had reached the 'home goal,' that counted one 'tally.' The game was for fifty tallies. The custom was to have no umpire, and the pitcher stood midway between the second and third bases, but nearer the center of the square. The batter stood midway between the first and fourth base, and the catcher just behind the batter, as near or as far as he pleased.</p>
<p>'Well, we beat the eleven [50-37].' [Mowry then tells of his success in letting the ball hit the bat and glance away over the wall "behind the catchers," which allowed him to put his side ahead in a later rubber game after the two sides had each won a game.]</p>
<p>'Well, we beat the eleven [50-37].' [Mowry then tells of his success in letting the ball hit the bat and glance away over the wall "behind the catchers," which allowed him to put his side ahead in a later rubber game after the two sides had each won a game.]</p>
<p>&nbsp;[B] "We had baseball and football on Andover Hill forty years ago, but not after the present style.&nbsp; Baseball was called <strong>round ball</strong>, and the batter that was most adept at fouls, made the most tallies.&nbsp; &nbsp;The Theologues were not too dignified in those days to play matches with the academy. There was some sport in those match games."</p>
|Sources=<p>[A] Claude M. Fuess, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">An Old New England School: A History of Phillips Academy, Andover</span> [Houghton Mifflin, 1917], pp. 449-450.</p>
<p>Researched by George Thompson, based on partial information from reading notes by Harold Seymour. Accessed 2/11/10 via Google Books search ("history of phillips").</p>
<p>A note-card in the Harold Seymour archive at Cornell describes the Mowry recollection.</p>
<p>[B] William Hardy, Class of 1853, as cited in Fred H. Harrison, Chapter 2, <em>The Hard-Ball Game,</em> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Athletics for All: Physical Education and Athletics at Phillips Academy, Andover, 1778-1978 </span>(Phillips Academy, 1983),&nbsp;accessed 2/21/2013 at <a href="http://www.pa59ers.com/library/Harrison/Athletics02.html">http://www.pa59ers.com/library/Harrison/Athletics02.html</a>.&nbsp; Publication information for the Hardy quote is not seen on this source.</p>
|Warning=<p>It appears that Fuess, the 1917 author,&nbsp;viewed this game as <strong>rounders</strong>, but neither the Mowry description nor the Hardy reference&nbsp;uses that name. It is possible that Fuess was an after-the-fact devotee of he rounders theory of base ball. The game as described is indistinguishable from <strong>round ball</strong> as played in New England, and lacks features [small bat, configuration of bases] used in English rounders during this period.&nbsp; The placement of the batter,&nbsp;the use of "tallies" for runs, and the 50-inning game length&nbsp;suggests that the game played may have been a version of what was to be encoded as the <strong>Massachusetts Game</strong> in 1858.</p>
|Comment=<p>Wikipedia has an entry for prolific historian William A Mowry (1829-1917).&nbsp;A Rhode Islander, his schooling is not specified, but he entered Brown University in 1854, and thus&nbsp;may have been a Phillips&nbsp;Andover senior in 1853.</p>
<p>Hardy's 1853 reference to the "Theologues" is, seemingly, a local theological seminary -- presumably the nearby Andover Theological Seminary --&nbsp;whose teams played many times&nbsp;from the 1850s to the 1870s against Phillips Andover.&nbsp; Hardy's note may thus mark the first known interscholastic match of a safe haven ballgame in the United States.</p>
<p>A prestigious preparatory school, Phillips Academy is in Andover MA and about 20 miles N of Boston.</p>
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|Sources=<p>Claude M. Fuess, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">An Old New England School: A History of Phillips Academy, Andover</span> [Houghton Mifflin, 1917], pp. 449-450.</p>
|Query=<p>Can we identify the seminary with the rival club, and determine whether it has any record of early ballplaying?</p>
<p>Researched by George Thompson, based on partial information from reading notes by Harold Seymour. Accessed 2/11/10 via Google Books search ("history of phillips").</p>
|Warning=<p>It appears that Fuess, the 1917 author,&nbsp;viewed this game as <strong>rounders</strong>, but Mowry's description did not itself use that name. It is possible that Fuess was an after-the-fact devotee of he rounders theory of base ball. The game as described is indistinguishable from <strong>round ball</strong> as played in New England, and lacks features [small bat, configuration of bases] used in English rounders during this period.&nbsp; The placement of the batter,&nbsp;the use of "tallies" for runs, and the 50-inning game length&nbsp;suggests that the game played may have been a version of what was to be encoded as the <strong>Massachusetts Game</strong> in 1858.</p>
|Comment=<p>Wikipedia has an entry for prolific historian William A Mowry (1829-1917).&nbsp;A Rhode Islander, his schooling is not specified, but he entered Brown University in 1854, and thus might have been a Phillips&nbsp;Andover senior in 1853.</p>
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"Rounders" Said to be Played at Phillips Andover School

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Immediacy of Report Retrospective
Age of Players Youth
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[A] "The game of "rounders," as it was played in the days before the Civil War, had only a faint resemblance to our modern baseball. For a description of a typical contest, which took place in 1853, we are indebted to Dr. William A. Mowry:"

[Nine students had posted a challenge to play "a game of ball," and that challenge was accepted by eleven other students.] "The game was a long one. No account was made of 'innings;' the record was merely of runs. When one had knocked the ball, had run the bases, and had reached the 'home goal,' that counted one 'tally.' The game was for fifty tallies. The custom was to have no umpire, and the pitcher stood midway between the second and third bases, but nearer the center of the square. The batter stood midway between the first and fourth base, and the catcher just behind the batter, as near or as far as he pleased.

'Well, we beat the eleven [50-37].' [Mowry then tells of his success in letting the ball hit the bat and glance away over the wall "behind the catchers," which allowed him to put his side ahead in a later rubber game after the two sides had each won a game.]

 [B] "We had baseball and football on Andover Hill forty years ago, but not after the present style.  Baseball was called round ball, and the batter that was most adept at fouls, made the most tallies.   The Theologues were not too dignified in those days to play matches with the academy. There was some sport in those match games."

Sources

[A] Claude M. Fuess, An Old New England School: A History of Phillips Academy, Andover [Houghton Mifflin, 1917], pp. 449-450.

Researched by George Thompson, based on partial information from reading notes by Harold Seymour. Accessed 2/11/10 via Google Books search ("history of phillips").

A note-card in the Harold Seymour archive at Cornell describes the Mowry recollection.

[B] William Hardy, Class of 1853, as cited in Fred H. Harrison, Chapter 2, The Hard-Ball Game, Athletics for All: Physical Education and Athletics at Phillips Academy, Andover, 1778-1978 (Phillips Academy, 1983), accessed 2/21/2013 at http://www.pa59ers.com/library/Harrison/Athletics02.html.  Publication information for the Hardy quote is not seen on this source.

Warning

It appears that Fuess, the 1917 author, viewed this game as rounders, but neither the Mowry description nor the Hardy reference uses that name. It is possible that Fuess was an after-the-fact devotee of he rounders theory of base ball. The game as described is indistinguishable from round ball as played in New England, and lacks features [small bat, configuration of bases] used in English rounders during this period.  The placement of the batter, the use of "tallies" for runs, and the 50-inning game length suggests that the game played may have been a version of what was to be encoded as the Massachusetts Game in 1858.

Comment

Wikipedia has an entry for prolific historian William A Mowry (1829-1917). A Rhode Islander, his schooling is not specified, but he entered Brown University in 1854, and thus may have been a Phillips Andover senior in 1853.

Hardy's 1853 reference to the "Theologues" is, seemingly, a local theological seminary -- presumably the nearby Andover Theological Seminary -- whose teams played many times from the 1850s to the 1870s against Phillips Andover.  Hardy's note may thus mark the first known interscholastic match of a safe haven ballgame in the United States.

A prestigious preparatory school, Phillips Academy is in Andover MA and about 20 miles N of Boston.

 

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