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|Headline=Lit Magazine Cites "Roaring" Game of "Bat and Base-ball"
|Headline=Lit Magazine Cites "Roaring" Game of "Bat and Base-ball"
|Salience=2
|Salience=2
|Game=Base Ball
|Game=Base Ball, Bat-Ball
|Age of Players=Juvenile
|Text=<p>The fifth stanza of the poem "Morning Musings on an Old School-Stile" reads: "How they poured the soul of gay and joyous boyhood/ Into roaring games of marbles, <strong>bat and base-ball</strong>!/ Thinking that the world was only made to play in, -/ Made for jolly boys, tossing, throwing balls! Also submitted by David Ball, 6/4/2006.</p>
|Text=<p>The fifth stanza of the poem "Morning Musings on an Old School-Stile" reads: "How they poured the soul of gay and joyous boyhood/ Into roaring games of marbles, <strong>bat and base-ball</strong>!/ Thinking that the world was only made to play in, -/ Made for jolly boys, tossing, throwing balls! Also submitted by David Ball, 6/4/2006.</p>
|Sources=<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Southern Literary Messenger</span>, volume 18, number 2, February 1852, page 96, per David Block, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Baseball Before We Knew It</span>, page 214.</p>
|Sources=<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Southern Literary Messenger</span>, volume 18, number 2, February 1852, page 96, per David Block, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Baseball Before We Knew It</span>, page 214.</p>

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Lit Magazine Cites "Roaring" Game of "Bat and Base-ball"

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Game Base Ball, Bat-Ball
Age of Players Juvenile
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The fifth stanza of the poem "Morning Musings on an Old School-Stile" reads: "How they poured the soul of gay and joyous boyhood/ Into roaring games of marbles, bat and base-ball!/ Thinking that the world was only made to play in, -/ Made for jolly boys, tossing, throwing balls! Also submitted by David Ball, 6/4/2006.

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Southern Literary Messenger, volume 18, number 2, February 1852, page 96, per David Block, Baseball Before We Knew It, page 214.

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John Thorn interprets this phrase to denote two games, bat-ball and base-ball. Others just see it as a local variant of the term base-ball. Is the truth findable here?  Note that Brian Turner, in "The Bat and Ball": A Distinct Game or a Generic Term?' Base Ball, volume 5, number 1, p. 37 ff, suggests that 'bat and ball" may have been a distinct game played in easternmost New England.

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Submitted by John Thorn, email of 2/10/2008.



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