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|Description=<p>"There is convincing documentation that sailors from an American ship (the Montana) docked at Guaymas in 1877 and staged a baseball contest witnessed by local residents. . . . it was not long before there were even reports of local youngsters forming a baseball team of their own."
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</p><p>A second 1877 claim:  "At Neuvo Laredo, a rustic setting close to the US border, it was American railroad construction bosses rather than American sailors who reportedly imported the game. . . . A pair of local nines were quickly formed (as legend has it) and the date reported for a first game staged between them is tradionally given as 1877."
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</p><p>These are not the only origins stories. One is that Cuban immigrants brought along baseball equipment in 1890. A "Mexico" ball club is said to have been founded in Mexico City in 1887. The first documented game was played in July 1889 in Nuevo Leon.
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</p><p>Peter C. Bjarkman, Diamonds Around the Globe (Greenwood Press, 2005), pages 267-268.
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|Description=<p>"There is convincing documentation that sailors from an American ship (the Montana) docked at Guaymas in 1877 and staged a baseball contest witnessed by local residents. . . . it was not long before there were even reports of local youngsters forming a baseball team of their own."</p>
<p>Peter C. Bjarkman, Diamonds Around the Globe (Greenwood Press, 2005), pages 267-268.</p>
<p>Doubt has been casts on this Guaymas story by more modern scholarship, which suggests that the beginning of baseball in Guaymas started&nbsp; with Guaymas students studying in California (and playing baseball there) who returned home and played. And that the Montana was already sunk by the claimed date. See Cesar Gonzalez Gomez, "A New Perspective on Mexican Baseball Origins," <em>Base Ball</em>, vol. 1 (Spring 2007), 64-72.</p>
|Sources=<p>Durazo, Baseball in Sonora.</p>
<p>Peter C. Bjarkman, Diamonds Around the Globe (Greenwood Press, 2005),&nbsp;</p>
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Date of Game 1877
Location Guaymas, Sonora, Mexico
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"There is convincing documentation that sailors from an American ship (the Montana) docked at Guaymas in 1877 and staged a baseball contest witnessed by local residents. . . . it was not long before there were even reports of local youngsters forming a baseball team of their own."

Peter C. Bjarkman, Diamonds Around the Globe (Greenwood Press, 2005), pages 267-268.

Doubt has been casts on this Guaymas story by more modern scholarship, which suggests that the beginning of baseball in Guaymas started  with Guaymas students studying in California (and playing baseball there) who returned home and played. And that the Montana was already sunk by the claimed date. See Cesar Gonzalez Gomez, "A New Perspective on Mexican Baseball Origins," Base Ball, vol. 1 (Spring 2007), 64-72.

Sources

Durazo, Baseball in Sonora.

Peter C. Bjarkman, Diamonds Around the Globe (Greenwood Press, 2005), 

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