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{{Chronology Entry
{{Chronology Entry
|Year=1847
|Year Number=11
|Headline=Curling is "Bass Ball," or "Goal," or "Hook-em-Snivy," on the Ice?
|Headline=Curling is "Bass Ball," or "Goal," or "Hook-em-Snivy," on the Ice?
|Year=1847
|Salience=2
|Salience=2
|Location=US South
|Location=US South
|Game=Oddball
|Game=Oddball
|Text=<p>In response to an article from the Alabama Reporter belittling the sport of curling, the <u>Spirit of the Times</u> writer attempts to describe curling to Southerners like this: "What <i><u>is</u></i> 'Curling,' eh? Why, did you ever play 'bass ball,' or 'goal,' or 'hook-em-snivy,' on the ice? Well, curling is not like either. In curling, sides are chosen; each player has a bat, one end of which is turned up, somewhat like a plough-handle, with which to knock a ball on ice without picking it up as in the game of foot-ball, which curling resembles." <u>The Spirit of the Times</u>, January 16, 1847, page 559. Provided by David Block, email of 2/27/2008.  David explains, "Clearly, the writer had curling confused with ice hockey, which was itself an embryonic sport that the time." Or maybe he confused it with ice-hurling, which actually employs a ball. <b>Note:</b> Could gentle readers please enlighten Protoball on the nature and fate of "hook-em-snivy," in AL or the South or elsewhere? I asked Mister Google about the word, and he rather less helpfully and rather more cryptically than usual, said this: "My Quaker grandmother, born in Maryland in 1823, used [the word] in my hearing when she was about seventy years old. She said that it was a barbarism in use among common people and that we must forget it."</p>
|Text=<p>In response to an article from the Alabama Reporter belittling the sport of curling, the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Spirit of the Times</span> writer attempts to describe curling to Southerners like this: "What <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">is</span></em> 'Curling,' eh? Why, did you ever play 'bass ball,' or 'goal,' or 'hook-em-snivy,' on the ice? Well, curling is not like either. In curling, sides are chosen; each player has a bat, one end of which is turned up, somewhat like a plough-handle, with which to knock a ball on ice without picking it up as in the game of foot-ball, which curling resembles." Provided by David Block, email of 2/27/2008. "</p>
<p>From Richard Hershberger, 12/8/09: "What makes this so interesting is that the response speaks of "bass ball" played on ice.  This is a decade before such games were commonly reported, suggesting that the [later] practice by organized clubs was borrowed from older, informal play on ice." </p>
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|Sources=<p><em>The&nbsp;<em>Alabama Reporter</em>, a</em>s reprinted in&nbsp;<em><em>Spirit of the Times,</em>&nbsp;</em>&nbsp;January 16, 1847, page 559.&nbsp;</p>
|Comment=<p>David Block explains, 2/27/2008: "Clearly, the writer had curling confused with ice hockey, which was itself an embryonic sport that the time." Or maybe he confused it with ice-hurling, which actually employs a ball.&nbsp;</p>
<p>From Richard Hershberger, 12/8/09: "What makes this so interesting is that the response speaks of "bass ball" played on ice. This is a decade before such games were commonly reported, suggesting that the [later] practice by organized clubs was borrowed from older, informal play on ice."</p>
|Query=<p>Could gentle readers please enlighten Protoball on the nature and fate of "hook-em-snivy," in AL or the South or elsewhere? I asked Mister Google about the word, and he rather less helpfully and rather more cryptically than usual, said this: "My Quaker grandmother, born in Maryland in 1823, used [the word] in my hearing when she was about seventy years old. She said that it was a barbarism in use among common people and that we must forget it.</p>
|Submitted by=David Block
|Submission Note=Email of 2/27/2008
|Reviewed=Yes
|Reviewed=Yes
|Year Number=11
|Has Supplemental Text=No
}}
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Curling is "Bass Ball," or "Goal," or "Hook-em-Snivy," on the Ice?

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In response to an article from the Alabama Reporter belittling the sport of curling, the Spirit of the Times writer attempts to describe curling to Southerners like this: "What is 'Curling,' eh? Why, did you ever play 'bass ball,' or 'goal,' or 'hook-em-snivy,' on the ice? Well, curling is not like either. In curling, sides are chosen; each player has a bat, one end of which is turned up, somewhat like a plough-handle, with which to knock a ball on ice without picking it up as in the game of foot-ball, which curling resembles." Provided by David Block, email of 2/27/2008. "

 

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The Alabama Reporter, as reprinted in Spirit of the Times,  January 16, 1847, page 559. 

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David Block explains, 2/27/2008: "Clearly, the writer had curling confused with ice hockey, which was itself an embryonic sport that the time." Or maybe he confused it with ice-hurling, which actually employs a ball. 

From Richard Hershberger, 12/8/09: "What makes this so interesting is that the response speaks of "bass ball" played on ice. This is a decade before such games were commonly reported, suggesting that the [later] practice by organized clubs was borrowed from older, informal play on ice."

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Could gentle readers please enlighten Protoball on the nature and fate of "hook-em-snivy," in AL or the South or elsewhere? I asked Mister Google about the word, and he rather less helpfully and rather more cryptically than usual, said this: "My Quaker grandmother, born in Maryland in 1823, used [the word] in my hearing when she was about seventy years old. She said that it was a barbarism in use among common people and that we must forget it.

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Submitted by David Block
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